HCR043 Idaho Bill Encourages Gov. To Declare Emergency To Reduce Wolf Numbers
February 17, 2010
LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO
Sixtieth Legislature Second Regular Session 2010
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 43
BY RESOURCES AND CONSERVATION COMMITTEE
1 A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
2 STATING FINDINGS OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT EXISTING CONDITIONS RELATING TO
3 WOLVES DEFINE AN EMERGENCY CONDITION FOR ALL RURAL IDAHOANS AND, IN THE
4 FACE OF THIS EMERGENCY, THE LEGISLATURE ENCOURAGES THE GOVERNOR OF THE
5 STATE OF IDAHO TO DECLARE THAT A STATE OF EMERGENCY EXISTS IN IDAHO AND
6 TO AUTHORIZE AND REQUIRE THE IDAHO DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME TO USE
7 ANY MEANS TO REDUCE WOLF NUMBERS TO THOSE DESIGNATED FOR RECOVERY OF THE
8 SPECIES.
9 Be It Resolved by the Legislature of the State of Idaho:
10 WHEREAS, wolf populations have grown to a level of over eight times the
11 number designated for recovery of the species in Idaho and no effective man12
agement plan exists for reducing wolf populations to the number designated
13 for recovery of the species? and
14 WHEREAS, growing and unacceptable levels of wolf predation against
15 livestock and pets exist and many claims relating to losses by wolves are not
16 fully compensated? and
17 WHEREAS, wolf packs have moved into densely populated areas and unnec18
essarily large numbers of wolves constitute a threat, not only to property,
19 but to human life itself, with particular threat to children? and
20 WHEREAS, the time and costs expended in an effort to protect livestock
21 against wolf attacks is never compensated? and
22 WHEREAS, people living in most rural parts of the state are threatened
23 by wolves and must change their habits and lose the safe use of, and travel
24 upon, their own property. Individuals must now arm themselves to face the
25 threat of growing, unchecked numbers of wolves in many parts of the state?
26 and
27 WHEREAS, unchecked numbers of wolves are destroying the culture and
28 heritage of rural Idahoans including, but not limited to, their use of real
29 estate, their use of hounds for legal hunting of big game, their livelihood
30 in professional hunting, such as outfitting and guiding, and their choice of
31 type and location of livestock animals for food production and recreation?
32 and
33 WHEREAS, excessive wolf populations reduce livestock production
34 through direct loss of life and loss of productivity, with higher costs to
35 producers, which creates devaluation of established livestock businesses in
36 areas of high wolf populations? and
37 WHEREAS, excessive numbers of wolves are hindering recovery of elk pop38
ulations in parts of the state, are reducing the big game populations avail39
able to hunters in the state, and are preventing the Idaho Department of Fish
40 and Game from exercising its mandate to manage big game for the benefit of
41 hunters in the state? and
42 WHEREAS, in 2006, Governor Jim Risch issued Executive Order No. 200643
32, finding that there was an imminent threat to the health of wild elk herds,
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1 as well as to the public health and safety of the citizens of Idaho, due to
2 escape of domestic elk from the Conant Creek Facility in eastern Idaho and
3 ordered the Idaho Department of Fish and Game to “identify and shoot on site,
4 any domestic elk that have escaped from the Conant Creek Facility.” The large
5 number of wolves in the state presents a far greater threat.
6 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the members of the Second Regular
7 Session of the Sixtieth Idaho Legislature, the House of Representatives
8 and the Senate concurring therein, that the above described conditions
9 define an emergency condition for all rural Idahoans and, in the face of this
10 emergency, the Legislature hereby encourages the Governor of the State of
11 Idaho to declare that a state of emergency exists in Idaho and to authorize
12 and require the Idaho Department of Fish and Game to use any legal means to
13 reduce wolf numbers to those designated for recovery of the species.
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This is MOST EXCELLENT News. It’s time for Idahoan hunters to stand up and punch the wolf advocates in the mouth, it is time for the traitorous Western Watersheds Frauds to be fully exposed for what they are, LIARS.
It is time to save our elk.
Way to go Idaho! Cant wait for the news to reach the intellectual dwindlites at Ralfies blog.
Priest Maughan has started a thread on it, thanking spy and back stabber Barb Lee Rupers for the find. Their sitting around their cry baby Utopian Bong cursing the Idahoan Neanderthal mentality of wilderness prisons.. They are the lamest low life humans on the planet, I’ve a good mind to let the identity of this JEFF E ass wipe OUT of the bag to.. IDFG would love to know who he is, always slamming them with his filth, he had best start fearing for his job, another city dweller “wolf Expert “. These retards house of cards is tilting finally..
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Reading the local paper here in Kalispell this morning deer hunting for whitetailed deer will be restricted to bucks only for the next two years thanks to our now “balanced eco-system. After that what, no deer hunting at all so the predators have enough?
If it goes the way it usually does, they will blame it on loss of habitat.
One of my Coeur d’ Alene contacts tells me Cal Groen, the Director of Idaho Fish and Game has called for the reduction of wolves statewide due to a crisis concerning elk decimation by the wolves, and other problems, cattle, pets.. He heard on the radio up that way today.. Hopefully we will get verification of this soon, and the main stream local media can stop ignoring the truth and broadcast it state wide, then the Priest Maughan flock can either continue to lie or they can shut up. Time for real Idahoans to stand up for the truth, time for the Maughnites to stop calling us inbred sister molesters..
Well actually it is kinda like loss of habitat. Putting whitetailed deer in a doug fir forest here is like putting a worm on an ant hill.
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I’m rooting for ya. What a great precedent it would set, giving strenth to other states (such as Maine) where predation has destroyed herds.
Helicopters wilderness court order allowing IDFG to count wolves in the FCW.
http://wolves.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/helicopters-wilderness-court-order.pdf
I dont think that a little chopper noise is a bad thing. I frequent national parks and wilderness areas all summer long. When fire season hits choppers and tanker planes are in the thick of it interuptiong my granola experience but I understand, cause fire can really mess up a hillside. The plaintiffs in the case sound like it is a bad thing cause they are gonna get the wilderness wolves counted too?I dont think that the wilderness experience is going to be threatened that time of year unless you have winter campers out in the wolf zone. Everything is a crisis to a wolf worshipper.
I agree Jay, count the dogs. The wolf cultists are losing more credibility daily, they never admit being in error ever, they sound like the Popers, or the Islamists, “You are either with us or against us” there is no middle ground, no compromise.. Their blogs are censored.. We can’t talk reality at their blogs, but they can call us inbred redneck’s who molest our mothers and sisters..
“WHEREAS, people living in most rural parts of the state are threatened
by wolves and must change their habits and lose the safe use of, and travel
upon, their own property. Individuals must now arm themselves to face the
threat of growing, unchecked numbers of wolves in many parts of the state …”
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When you have to start packing a gun to take the dogs out to pee at night in your own backyard – you know there is a problem.
When wolves challenge you in your own driveway – you know there is a problem.
When you sit and listen to wolves howling from the school yard at night – you know there is a problem.
When you hear the neighbors shooting at night (because there is a wolf after their dog) – you know there is a problem.
When wolves are tearing an elk apart in your subdivision – you know there is a problem!
…the proposed bill in the Idaho legislature is nonsense. Elk populations are stable in Idaho or increasing. The mythology of wolves attacking people is hilarious. Wolves are dangerous animals…yes…a big threat in the wild?..no. There are 300-400 deaths due to domestic dogs every year in the US and thousands of injuries..does that create any kind of stir or legislation?…how many wolf attacks have then been in North America in the last 100 years?…like 10 like 5?…like almost none except by rabid animals. Using nonsensical science is a real problems because all it does is give ammunition to the anti hunting groups. I am a hunter by the way and concerned
Aside from the fact that you are grossly misinformed, I tire from the ignorant statement about domestic dogs attacking humans more than wolves. Any intelligent human being would understand that there are millions of domestic dogs in the United States alone compared to a few thousand wolves spread out over the Western Great Lakes region, Northern Rocky Mountains and the Southwest. The comparison is idiotic.
The elk populations in Idaho are not stable, and are not increasing, that is another idiotic claim..
How many winter ranges in Southern Idaho have you glassed this winter Rich ?, Just yesterday I put on 260 miles on the truck and 50 miles on the snow mobile. I should have, and normally would have located 6,000 to 12,000 elk in those two particular locations, I estimated seeing about 800 elk..
The evidence on the ground does not match the paper estimations you are relying on..
I’ve been spying on elk here for over 40 years, picked up the habit from my father… We live in it, Rich, not 100 miles away from it in a city..
Rich, the reach out an hug-a-wolf crowd dont need amunition to appose hunting. They appose hunting because the animals in the forest are only supposed to feed predators. To them mans existance is secondary to mother earth, they seek to eliminate man from the landscape. If you like to hunt you better get a clue to what needs to be done.
The elk populations in Idaho are not stable, and are not increasing, to lie and say other wise is another idiotic claim..
I would ask how many deer or elk he harvested while being a hunter to. I would ask where are the Deadwood elk herd, the Whitehawk Basin elk herd, the Courderoy and Bruce meadows elk herd, the Zumwalt elk herd, The Bridal Veil, Elk Creek, Martin Lake elk herd, the Decker Flat elk herd.. The Ten Mile Creek, and Head waters North Fork Boise River elk herd. I used to Bugle Bulls in those places annually and now their so sneaky their not even leaving hoof prints..
Where did they go RICH !!
Rich spends to much time reading gatekeeper and lie promoter Priest Maughans bullshit about wild life and not any real news at all blog…
Those government hired hands, and retiree’s like to hang out there and stroke each others ego.. They never had to produce any damn thing other than bullshit in their worthless lives, they just stole from those of us who did produce real things..
Greg,
This is number two, again, where is the Zumwalt elk herd?
Lee,
I thought you knew more about my back yard than I do, or any other Idahoan living on it.. The Zumwalt elk herd are all dead, thanks to the many Zumwalt wolf packs hanging along the ridge line from Zumwalt Mountain, Elevation 8816, to Cooper Mountain Elevation 9158. The massive country around Zumwalt Mountain includes the Bear Creek Drainage, Camp Creek, Elk Creek, South Fork Canyon Creek, Elizabeth lake, Martin and Kelley lakes, Hanson lakes, Bridal Veil Falls, And of course Zumwalt lake.. This circle of country has never been to ungulate carrying capacity since 1930. Now it is in dire need of elk being repopulated into it again.. A once great archery hunt, for three decades of my hunting life, ruined by the over population of wolves. Sawtooth State Wilderness, Sawtooth State Forest.. Idaho.. You should double check with mister Jeff e, another “expert” what thinks he knows it all about Idaho.. While sitting on his lazy fat ass in a city…
Greg,
Thanks for the response. I have envied your knowledge of and travels in the high country of central Idaho. Most of my time there was in the river canyons during summer months for river trips. For > 20 years I wanted to join my Idaho relates during their fall hunts in the Clearwater region but, as a teacher, I didn’t have that option.
“This circle of country has never been to ungulate carrying capacity since 1930. ” Could you explain this statement?
” Sawtooth State Wilderness, Sawtooth State Forest..”
Again I am in the dark; I never heard of these and can find no reference to them.
I am aware of the Sawtooth National Recreation Area and Sawtooth National Forest.
Within the last week I have seen on my temporary winter ponds: mallards, woodies, hoodies, baldpate, pintail, bufflehead, green-wing teal, ringbills, and for the first time ever cackler geese. Black-tail deer all about and saw-whet owls starting their routine nightly mating season calls; great horned owls also. The first tree swallows of the year arrived early on the 18th. The best news was that there was a minimum of 7 western pond turtles basking on logs provided for that function.
Enjoy the upcoming seasons!
The State term is my own, I am so disenchanted with the federal version of control I reverted the saying to how it would have been under the Founding writers of our Constitutional Restraints put in place to safeguard Sovereign peoples and lands from occupation and subversion of ownership and management..
Zumwalt Mountain is just outside the Sawtooth Wilderness (Primitive) area, Northwest corner.. North of Grandjean..
Considering the acreages involved in that circle of country described and the best years of elk growth I personally witnessed in there, i do not see how it has ever come close to its carrying capacity of elk, verse habitat, during the seasons in which they frequented the area, late spring, Summer, late fall..
The thick timber and marshes on the benches around Zumwalt were once my favorite bow hunt.. There never has been a trail into that place, i would just bushwhack into it, with a mule, and camp out.. The lake might make three acres.. Nice fly fishing hole..
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My children,
Stop the fighting, a genocide on my beloved Canis Lupus is not a noble thing, its not a solution either. If you wish to see more elk and the like then merely stop hunting. Don’t blame the noble creatures native to this land, after all wolves are more native than even the elk.
PS.
If hunters have the urge to kill here are some substitutions for wildlife: Yourself, work for Purdue or similar, Idaho legislature, child traffickers, your friends.
[...] sponsor hunting derbies to see who can kill the most. And now they’re trying to pass a bill that would require the Idaho Department of Fish and Game “to use any means to reduce wolf [...]
Dear Jesus, may I lay my hands on you?
” PS.
If hunters have the urge to kill here are some substitutions for wildlife: Yourself, work for Purdue or similar, Idaho legislature, child traffickers, your friends.”
You left out some substitutions.
It is not your RIGHT to shoot Elk. It is not your RIGHT to eliminate natural competition for your enjoyment is shooting game. There is NO OTHER outdoor sport that would seek to eliminate a natural creature from the environment.
If the Elk herds are on the decline, then there should be fewer hunting permits issued. There should be wolf managment too, but this is a far cry from the desired all out zealous assalt I have seen advocatedin in the Idaho media from Butch Otter and countless other hunters in Idaho. I used to think hunters were conservationists until I moved to Idaho 2 years ago. I LOVE being in a state where there are still areas that are truly wild.
By the way- natural predators will the weak, the aged, and the under-adapted, in general, while hunters kill the biggest and strongest. If Elk are on the decline in Idaho, MANAGE wolves, but stop supporting their all out slaughter, stop villifying them, and reduce the number of Elk hunting permits issued. That is how it would be for ANY other game permits. I find it utterly bizarre that hunters can complain about wolves killing 10K Elk a year, and then want to go out at kill 20K themselves. Wolves are trying to survive, they are not killing for sport. If they overkill, their population suffers and they die off. Not true for humans, who time and again have proven they would continue to kill until there’s nothing left. So which one should cut their killing back? I have never been so sickened and disgusted by anti-wolf articles until I moved out here. I am from Indiana, where there is a large population of deer hunters, and I had no idea that there was such sickening, simplistic anti-wolf thinking still so alive and well in this country until I moved to Idaho.
Right ! Wolves don’t kill for sport, it was all the elk dying of constipation and blowing their own asses out with a massive fart that killed them, the wolves just happened to walk by and have a look, that would explain all the wolf tracks around all those dead elk carcasses littering the national forests..
That must be why several winter ranges no longer have elk wintering on them, they died of farting. NO WONDER IDAHO FISH AND GAME CUT HUNTING TAG OPPORTUNITY IN ALL CONTROLLED HUNT UNITS BY 50% we have a farting elk epidemic.. And all those elk calves died from starving because mother elk farted herself to death..
Those poor over populated mistreated picked on wolves… are so innocent.
Ok, I wonder who will win the bullshitting contest ?
I admit the possibility of several hundred, or thousand elk, prematurely gave birth to their calves by forcing the calves out due to tired of being pregnant. Wolves would never rip out, tear out, jerk out those little fetuses from the mother elk would they.. Of course not.
What the hell do people living in Idaho longer than two years know anyhow.. thanks for waking me up from my DREAM WORLD Andrea…
Andrea,
Maybe you should goe back to Indiana. There are a lot of us out here that still live off of elk and deer, especially with this economy. The reason we think we have a right to the elk is because without sportsmens dollars to bring them back after the early 1900′s there would not be any tto feed your little wolves. Most don’t mind a few wolves but when they start thinning out to many deer, moose and elk we have a problem with that. Wolves kill for the hell of it and they maim and chase for something to do. Last winter we found several kills that had not been touched other than when the wolves brought it down. The biggest problem is people like yourself that think they know it all from what they’ve read and hear from others that are totally activist pro-wolf . Basically if your are so unhappy in Idaho you and the rest can move back to where you came from and leave us the hell alone. Our predators and prey were doing fine without you and yours.
Thanks for sharing this post…
When and if wolves show up in Colorado we’ll make damn sure they won’t overpopulate down here. They can’t get out of my rifles range. I regularly shoot out to 1000 yards.
Andrea,
You obviously don’t have a clue as to what your talking about and I would expect as much from a person who has never lived the life. I hear this grap all the time from pro wolfies and it’s the same old beat the dead horse syndrome.
I agree with Mike you might be better off back in Indiana because you will never be able to hack the way of the westerner. I won’t bore you with facts as you are totally brain washed and it would do no good to bother. Go east young girl go east.
Horace Greeley was the one who first said go west young man but a newspaper man from Indiana John Soule got the credit for it in 1851 but what was odd is he was pointing at the morning sunrise as he said it.