Man About To Become U.S. Citizen Arrested For Having Too Much Ammo
May 23, 2009
This is indecent to say the least and it happen in the great police state of Massachusetts. Keni Garcia, who recently moved from New Hampshire to Massachusetts, was arrested and held without bail because he had 30,000 round of ammunition – .38 caliber, 9mm and .22 caliber. He also owns those guns.
Garcia, from the Dominican Republic and scheduled to become a U.S. citizen yesterday, was arrested while driving his car yesterday. Police found 10,000 rounds of ammo in his car. After searching his home, police confiscated another 20,000 rounds of ammo, one .38-caliber and two 9 mm handguns, and $25,000 in cash.
So, where’s the crime? Garcia says the ammo is for target shooting. Police say that’s unrealistic. Is it? I don’t think it is and even if it is “unrealistic”, what’s the crime? Is it a crime to possess “too much” ammunition?
Police wonder if he isn’t selling the ammo back to people in his home country. Is he? Is that against the law? If it is prove it BEFORE you arrest someone and hold them without bail.
If police are going to begin arresting people for having 30,000 rounds of ammunition on hand, I have a feeling they could be busy. With the recent run on guns and ammunition, I suspect there’s a fair amount of stockpiling going on.
Have we really become a nation of lawlessness, where rights and the U.S. Constitution are disregarded? If this guy’s a crook, then do the investigation and then arrest him once you have proof. Because some police department thinks 30,000 rounds of ammo is “too much”, isn’t reason to arrest someone.
Tom Remington
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I wonder if their going to go arrest the gun shop owner who sold him the 10,000 rounds via retail sales next ? How about the salesman who sells it to the police in bulk, are they gonna think to bust him to…Just because they feel like it.. Are the Massachusetts police going to turn themselves in for stocking ammo as well..just because I think they should ? Did they let this innocent man go, he is a baker by trade, did they give his property back yet, They stole his ammo, 30,000 rounds, his three guns, AND they confiscated $25,000 in cash which was at his home..That must be to much cash to have on hand in this New Age Nightmare we are living in to..WELCOME TO MASSACHUSETTS, I bet he is sorry he moved to that NAZI STATE..
There are regulations on ammo storage in large quantities in MA. I don’t recall them off the top of my head because I could never afford to have that much ammo around. But, if you read the article, he’s not being charged with having too much ammunition.
“Garcia is charged with three counts of possession of a high-capacity firearm, illegal possession of ammunition and illegal storage of a firearm. His case was continued until June 12.”
You must get an FID or LTC in order to possess a gun in Massachusetts. Based on the charges, he needed an LTC. You also need to have an FID or LTC to possess ammunition, even individual components. (I couldn’t let new shooters take a piece of brass home from the range because they could get jail time for it.) The significant amount of ammo may have been an issue in getting the warrant for the house, but even if they only found one spent casing in his car, they would have had evidence enough to bring charges.
Most gun owners are appropriately appalled at Massachusetts gun control. You can go to jail for the most minor of things. The improper storage charge means he didn’t have his guns locked up, for example. Unfortunately, there aren’t many gun owners left in Massachusetts to make up for the number of anti-gun residents. If you want to help an organization that’s trying to keep the tide of anti-gun efforts back, then support Gun Owners’ Action League – http://www.goal.org.
Is there any truth as to what was said in the article that he had a 60 day grace period to obtain his permits?
So 10,000 rounds of ammo in the car gave them “permission” to go raid his home.. And I thought California was the most Communist State in our “Free Republic”.. Sounds like he is guilty of being ignorant of some de-facto “laws” which I bet don’t hold water under that states Constitution nor our Federal Bill of Rights.. I’m going to go read Massachusetts Constitution…Sounds like these thugs should be wearing the SWASTIKA on their Uniforms…Read the fine print before entering another state…These kinds of cops would shoot us if some legislation told them to do it…
I think the article stated that the guys wife gave police permission to search the house? But the whole thing really reeks! It all began because some police made the determination that having 10,000 rounds of ammo in his car isn’t right.
Look what being cooperative got these two people..RANSACKED by ” Protect and Serve”.
There is a sixty day grace period does exist. However, if there’s evidence that he had moved more than that, then he’s not covered. Within that 60 days, he’s only protected for the process of moving in and storage in the home. Storage would still have to be in accordance with the law. Based on the charges, they were probably not locked up.
I don’t recall any restrictions for ammo in terms of not being able to transport it within those 60 days, but different circumstances could give prosecutors the evidence they think they need to bring a case.
The other issue may be that if he was still within those 60 days, but on something like day 58, and still hadn’t taken the mandatory class and turned in an application, he’s going to be hard pressed to prove he’s trying to do the right thing in regards to the law. Don’t get me wrong, the law is bad. But it’s still the current law. There are tons of resources online to try and help new Massachusetts residents.
I think in this case, the number of rounds owned is being trumped up by the prosecutor. There’s too much missing information about the context of the charges to know the full story here. Like I said, regardless of whether it was 10,000 rounds in his car or one spent brass casing, the police had all the evidence they needed to arrest him if he didn’t have a license. It truly is unfortunate.
In Massachusetts, you transport or own firearms at your own risk. In fact, for many years, there was an AG opinion that said FOPA didn’t even apply there. So be very careful even if you think you’re covered.
There is no other law than our Constitution, Bill of Rights…And Massachusetts Own Constitution as well is their Supreme law and no code or de-facto law can ever over ride it…Unless everyone is stupid and legally ignorant as well as beat down…
http://www.mass.gov/legis/const.htm
They defile the Supreme Laws of the Nation and the state simply due to ignorance in the part of the people themselves..Where this man failed to understand de-facto codes prior to entry and moving into–Massachusetts Citizen/people same definition legally forgot, never learned the actually meaning of their own contract with LIBERTY….
Article XVII. The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.
The hand of the dictator only gets worse…
Article XIV. Every subject has a right to be secure from all unreasonable searches, and seizures, of his person, his houses, his papers, and all his possessions. All warrants, therefore, are contrary to this right, if the cause or foundation of them be not previously supported by oath or affirmation; and if the order in the warrant to a civil officer, to make search in suspected places, or to arrest one or more suspected persons, or to seize their property, be not accompanied with a special designation of the persons or objects of search, arrest, or seizure: and no warrant ought to be issued but in cases, and with the formalities prescribed by the laws. [See Amendments, Art. XLVIII, The Initiative, II, sec. 2].
These amendments are never over ruled by commercial codes..No judge, no cop, no city employee, no sheriff, constable, no city or county council or commission can design or formulate any form of “code” color of law–which over rules the amendments…Only the state legislature can change the amendments..or alter them…And they have not done so, they have skirted around them illegally to enforce “code”..
They then have broken the real laws of Massachusetts the laws of the people..You can never rely on others to define law for you..If you do, you get a de facto police state running roughshod over the De-Jure populance..Just the way the communist like’s it..
Stand up now or forever surrender your piece..
…In 1780, John Adams fathered the Massachusetts Constitution. Being a man of books and intellectual curiosity, he understood the importance of a well-informed American public. The Massachusetts Constitution is unique, however. It’s unique from every other state’s constitution because it includes wisdom and knowledge, as well as virtue. Massachusetts is diffused generally among a body of people necessary for the preservation of their rights and liberties.
People of Massachusetts Should be ashamed, very ashamed..
The federal government is one of delegated powers and not original powers, and the primary powers of congress are found in Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 1-18. Interfering with personal rights, among them the right to keep and bear arms is not found in the sole or delegated powers of the federal government, and incidentally, nor in the Constitution of the SEVERAL STATES, local, county, and any other legislative bodies are bound by these restraints.
The secondary powers of the Senate are meant to be housekeeping powers and nowhere in the Constitution is the Congress authorized to tamper with our personal unalienable rights as Sovereign De-Jure Nationals which their in servitude to, and neither are they to tamper with the Second Amendment Right to keep and bare arms..nor the right to be well supplied in that endeavor.
Their in violation…
Greg you should teach history, you’re awesome!
Guns in fact are private property and as such, guns were specifically excluded from the Interstate Commerce measure by the Founding Fathers.
Third Chief Justice John Marshall wrote ;
“When the U.S. Constitution is silent on any proposed power under the delegated powers of Congress ( Article 1, Section 8, C1. 1-18) and the proposed power is incidental to another power already in the Constitution, then it is a prohibition (inhibition) of that power and it may not be taken or used.”
This ruins all gun control lies, laws, deceptions, of any credibility, makes them, no forces them to be null and void, ultra-vires and not anything more than wasted paper and ink period.
As well the fifth Amendment to the Bill of Rights, article 5, comes into the prohibition of gun control laws;
“……nor be deprived of life and PROPERTY, ” and as we have already stated, guns are PRIVATE PROPERTY…. Read it and flinch you communists !!!
As well the entire second Amendment blog here I wrote which the excerpts are from..
http://pepehateme.wordpress.com/
I love history, especially suppressed history, there likely is not a single public school in America that would take me.. I would un-indoctrinate the peoples children and take America away from the Papacy..
I also really like my guns…They can’t have them..
I memorized the Declaration of Independence in the 5th grade and shared it for show and tell in front of the class…Another Ladd and myself always competed to see who was the better seeker of Revolutionary War history and Civil War history…We still do it today, 40+ years later..LOL…I was good at this because mother made me memorize Bible sermons and made me give those sermons in church…yuck..I hated it then..Not so now..
If every American could do this, or would do this, because it is so easy..We would not be in this position we find ourselves in..
Time to rally men..It’s our land their stealing…
Actually this is the Second Amendment blog-part one here…
http://pepehateme.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/second-amendment-facts-oligarchs-hate/
Makes one want to re-assess their inventory and buy more…
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I Like Guns And Ammo Just As Much As The Next Guy But uh… Thats pushing it a little. He shouldnt have been arrested!
This is a scary trend. It doesn’t take much looking into history to see why it is so important for the citizens to own and use arms, and not just the army and police.
I’ve been reading “The Fall and Decline or the Roman Empire” by Edward Gibbon. It’s amazing from about 0AD – 200AD there was nearly constant civil war, with a few brief respites.
One of the main causes was that when the armies become discontent with their pay would replace the current emperor with whom ever they chose. The citizens could do nothing about it because it was illegal for them to own arms.
The other cause of civil was was when an ambitious general would use his armies to other through the government. Again the government could do nothing about it because the people weren’t armed to counter balance the power of the army.
For the stability of our country all the citizens need to be armed. Doing so makes it nearly impossible for any extreme faction, tyrant, internal power, or foreign power, to succeed in a conquest of our nation.
Brian
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In this Constitutional Republic (not a democracy), the rights of the one supercede the desires of the many. Oh I forgot, this is the USA…
If we are NOT protected by the U.S. constitution, equally in every State, then the U.S. government hasn’t got juridiction to collect (extort) taxes, as those whom have NOT the protections of the U.S. Constitution, must not be “citizens” of the United States. Seems that these days, that covers pretty much everyone in the 50 States and the Territories.
So it seems to me.
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