Comments on: Men Report Attack By Wolves While Hunting In Montana. State Dismisses Claim

By: Little Red Riding Hood and the end of the Montana Wolf Hunting season | Willfishforwork.com

Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:10:07 +0000

[...] (especially in the current wolf publicity campaign in the US) that wolves do not attack humans. Maybe us “yanks” have just been lucky so far. I happened upon some interesting reading via Save Elk, a site supported by a group of citizens in [...]

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:59:08 +0000

Funny that we all grew listening to folk stories such as “Little Red Ridding Hood” and “Three Little Pigs” Some parts of the stories are metaphoric, however you can not dumb down that fact, that these stories were passed down from generation to generation for no other reason than to educate and warn the next generation. These stories date well over 500 years and date back to Europe. Lessons 1.) Children should not go walking in the woods alone…2.) The wolf is very smart (like a human) (The little red story is meant to warn young girls about talking to strangers in the woods alone, I find it ironic, that instead of just saying “strangers” they use “BiG Bad Wolf.” Hum I wander why!!! To a young child what would be the difference? Both can be diabolical, and 500 yrs ago and today, in the wrong situation deadly. 3.) The other storey is also warning young people not to leave the protection of thier parents to soon, and when they do leave, to make sure that the new home is structurally sound, top to bottom… Guess what knows how to dig holes? Just imagine how people lived 500 years ago, poor, dirt floors, no guns, no transportation. Think about the expressions, like “wolf at the door”, did you ever consider where this comes from?
It is clear to me that our ancestors where well aware that wolves preyed on humans, the wolf has not changed much (evolution wise) in the last 500 years: however we have advance with travel, shelter, guns, ect. But when someone goes into the woods without the protection of a truck and a gun, they are just as much at risk as back then.

Generations have used the wolf as an example for a reason, the above stories can be traced back to real people, and real events.

The wolf populations needs to be kept in check, all problem wolves should be eliminated not moved. I hear parvo is now killing some\wolves, the wolves probably have this disease, due to killing and eating dogs. Maybe the wolves will eliminate themselves…. If the parvo controls thier numbers, guns can not be blamed. The wolf must learn a simple rule, “he can NOT throw mud, without getting his paws dirty’.

By: Lee

Lee — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:22:57 +0000

Barbaraj, nice post. You are absolutely correct about feral cats; however, the expense of catching, and transporting is a lot more than a bullet on site which has the same end result.

By: barbaraj

barbaraj — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:06:10 +0000

i notice that there are a lot of generalizations about those of us who are “wolfies” as you call us…

we are a pretty varied bunch tho, some are city dwellers, some suburbanites, some rural, and a few ranchers.

our philosophies are really varied too. some are for saving all animals where ever possible (they are usually part of the national humane society) which i am not..i am for maintaining wildlife habitat and healthy eco systems.

which means in my neighborhood i trap and turn in feral cats to be put down by the local animal control. some communities will not do that because of their local humane society..i am against letting populations of feral cats unmitigated because they wreak havoc on the wildlife population. i consider them an invasive species, not native..

i think probably the way i feel about feral cats is similar to the way you feel about wolves (and yes i understand that to you wolves are worse because they disrupt your elk and deer numbers, sometimes predate on your livestock, and make you concerned about safety issues. but it is comparable nonetheless because i am concerned about the maintenance of planetary species (all of them, not just wolves). i think if you are living in Wy,Mo, Co, and Idaho, it may be difficult to realize that the numbers of native species really is being threatened..so far the deer, elk, or moose are doing fine surviving as a species..so i am not concerned about their numbers at this point..

that said, i am also for realistic numbers when it comes to predator reintroduction. i know there is controversy about what that is, but when that number is reached i am all for controlling the numbers over that amount.

this is not an official position..the only official position i will leave to the biologists who study the animal ecosystems…and as i said, the next person you may find has a dont kill a single wolf attitude..but that is not mine, and that actually is a very minute number..

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:05:25 +0000

Comrade Lee says typical inducing rhetoric from wolf lovers who hate anyone exposing their lies and dogma nonsense who claim to like wolves and it is ok to let them die of starvation rather than gun shot. THERE, ain’t that more fun, edited by ME Comrade Lee.

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:57:39 +0000

Don’t shoot the wolfie, but it is OK to let them die of Starvation. Makes ya wonder who really hates wolves. Maybe Marxist Obama is going to make dog food companies provide rural folks WHO ACTUALLY LIVE WITH WOLVES EVERY DAY with bags of doggie foods to set out on their porch for this government investment gone wrong….we can call it the wolfie bailout plan. But then hell, we should remember that communists approved youth- inasia programs in the past by caged up starvation, see Stalin, and Hitler did it to, but then Nazi’s and Commy’s are the same thing. They hate private property, and especially the right to vote and speak out against their dogma. Ain’t that right COMRADE LEE. Or is that Ralph ? LeBeau perhaps ?

By: Greg Farber

Greg Farber — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:45:58 +0000

Cars don’t rush into school yards and harass children, cars don’t stalk kids at school bus stops, cars don’t slink along behind kids walking to and from the school bus stop. Wolves do, see Catron County New Mexico where they built inclosed shelters at bus stops so kids can be safe from stalking wolves, Cascade Idaho is or has also done this. We can already say we told you so, Kenton Carnegie 22 years old, killed by Canadian Wolves 2005. US and Canadian citizens have been harassed and bitten by wolves. Emily Travaglini 14, of Sault Ste. Marie bitten by a wolf at Katherines Cove beach in Lake Superior Provincial Park, Leah Morgan 3 attacked by same wolf same day, her grandparents rescued her from the wolf as it tried to drag her away by the arm. two other humans were bitten as well, 13 year old Jake, 12 year old Casey, We can already say we told you so. We never said wolves do not attack humans your side did. This event was reported in the Hamilton Spectator. A British Columbia canoer was attacked and being bitten defended himself from the wolf. We never said wolves would not attack humans, your side did. A hunter was attacked in Warm Springs Creek, IDAHO, he killed the wolf. There are others, but of course besides fighting your unfair bias, we must tolerate media outlets that cover-up rather than report facts of wolf encounters in the lower 48, and as this article shows they musta made it up. government kills a lot of kids lets get rid of it. government steals everything including diverted tax-dollars with out permission to buy and support wolves and forvce them on people that do not want them. lets get rid of government, it has a 100% failure rate, see history, see your government. Idaho has 43 failing county governments right now, lets ban it to. SINCE the Frank Church is yours to, I suggest you try the Sulpher Creek Drainage loop, its awsome, take your camera, and doggy biscuits, your million plus dollars doggies are waiting to see ya, their lonely.

By: barbaraj

barbaraj — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:21:32 +0000

Cars kill a lot of kids, lets get rid of them.

By: Lee

Lee — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:31:04 +0000

Typical hysteria inducing rhetoric from wolf haters who claim to like wolves:

jes: “what will happen when the wolf starts taking pieces out of suburban kids and their pets”

Greg: “And we will see the chewed up human yet in all this, probably a child walking to school. ”

Keep hoping so you can say “I told you so”.
Dogs are a bigger threat to humans, especially kids, than are wolves! Kill them all. Deer are deadly. Humans too.

By: Lee

Lee — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:36:05 +0000

Greg states: “Someone said wolves would stay in the Wilderness and they wanted to be left alone”
Who is this someone? I never heard this from any of my sources.

“Wilderness” with a capital “W” no less – where is that?
I never expected wolves to stay only in the Frank Church Wilderness of Idaho where the wolves were released, nor was that part of the reintroduction plan. It was chosen as the nucleus of the largest public lands (which, by the way, belong to all USA citizens, not just those in Idaho) available in the lower 48 for the project.

“they wanted to be left alone”
the mythical “someone said ” again? It is nothing I ever heard.

I’ll be damned, Greg anwered a question! He has two places! So which one are you at now?