Michigan Wolf Pack Slaughters 50 Domestic Geese And Ducks
September 9, 2008
Sandra Augustine of Bruce Crossing, woke up the other morning to discover that all of her geese and ducks had been wiped out by a pack of wolves. Officials think the older pack members were teaching their young how to hunt.
Read more of the story here from the WLUCTV-6 website but take note of this comment:
“There’s never been a human related wolf conflict or aggressive wolf in the lower 48 states,†Roell insisted.
Brian Roell is wolf coordinator for the Department of Natural Resources.
Tom Remington
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After reading the article, I had to agree with the following post: Humans need to intervene
Posted by Bob Rinne, Illinois - Tuesday, September 09, 2008 at 7:59 a.m.
“As a former Yooper,I am quite familiar with the wolf problem. I hunt near Bruce Crossing. We see wolves following deer during deer season, when there are many hunters in the woods. The wolves have little fear of man. The only long term hope for wolves is to allow them to be hunted. Some will disagree, but the primary reason humans don’t kill other humans is the fear of consequences. Those that do kill other humans must be dealt with. Wolves are no different. Until they learn to fear the consequences of human contact they will act just like an out of control gang in an urban area. The wolf population in the UP already exceeds the long term goal. It is time to teach them to avoid human contact. It really is their only hope for survival.”
Just like the alligators here in Florida, once they become “familar” with people, and are not hunted, they become aggressive enough to begin outright attacks! Just stop and think back on the thirty or so years ago, when they began to exterminate the wolf…..anybody wonder why? Or have they changed the way history really was?
Thats why history keeps repeating, real history gets suppressed, by being re-written by those same fools wanting to try their theory again, and again, and again. You know the saying ” To the victor go the spoils ” well the victor gets to tell history to his benefit, just study on the Civil War as a classic example, the Lincoln Assassination, the Indian wars……The Stalin Green agenda of the Bolshevik era….Democracy in World History….all failed. Idaho tried to protect predators in the 20s and 30s, hooved herds collapsed, hooved herds were re-introduced….predators became controlled by us again, it worked beautifully, Oh but now we gots to tinker with it again..guess what, hooved herds are in collapse in three states…..70+ years of successful management down the 14 year old wolf environmentalists dream hole….AND we got tall grass and brush every where, course we always did, the Habitat lies to support the wolf program are false science too. Yes, they changed the way history really was, again. Soon the wolf population will collapse, get ready to be blamed for it, it will be OUR fault and not THEIRS, again too.
Glad you’re back, amigo…got to wonder when the wolves are going to get the jump on you! The more of them, the greater the odds that might happen…hope you’re packin a stout .38 or better, just to even the odds some.
When in wolf country, pack! (and I don’t mean luggage)
I’m back early due to a lame bronc, shod up the boys and I’m off again to the Wonderful World of Disney, lol. I’m packin the 45 acp, the 454 Casull From Freedom, and my 1940 Winchester 30/30. If they ever get me then you boys can make some hay out of it, I know it will not get suppressed by my family via FWS threats of silence.
Funny thing about this wolf loving business, if its in your yard thats mighty fine, BUT, wait until its in their yard, then the tune will change.
It’s hard to believe people will listen to such crap.
The other day, someone said they watched what Palin was doing
in Wasilla, while blubbering nonsense about every thing from
education to wolves. An impossible task is to sit there
on your backside and make unfounded claims about this location and it’s people, while expecting others to think
you have some inside or close information. What a lie.
This same person claimed they lived here and knew all about
Alaska and Palin. They do not. They lie. If, perhaps, you
have moved here from somewhere else, that might explain the
lies or perhaps it’s nicer to say “mis-information” but it is still a lie.
Living in this State is a bit more expensive than others. The hardship of the winters is a struggle at times but the
rewards are great……. the lies from misinformation are
greater.
This is the Last Frontier, not the Final Frontier. Keep the
Federation out of it, and divert all available power to the
sheilds, Scottie.
Greg, that’s a lot of weight to be carrying all the time, but if you’re comfortable with it, ok. Me, I’m getting so I like it as lite as I can get it, and still wheelguns…but it’s on me all the time or where I can reach it…jest don’t forget to do the same…My old 1961 M 94 I ordered from Sears and Roebuck when I was about 17, is still the medicene when I need it! That was the only year you could turn upside down, and it still reads 1961….kinda like me…(of course when 6119 cames around…)
Oh my God — a wild animal attacking another wild animal? Unheard of!!
How dare they??
Whoops –sorry — my mistake. They were “domestic” geese and ducks. I guess they weren’t wearing tags that the wolves could read!
Bea, your encredible, The domstic geese were on private property, wolves in the wild is one thing, wolves harrassing folks in rural communities is another, and it is not right. Children have the right to live and play on their private property in rural living area’s with out the threat of being attacked by a wolf, a dog, a lion, a bear or even a sexual predator. Wolves do not belong in these places and are a danger to humans and their pets, and livestock. Eventually a child will be killed, I bet you will be heartless about that as well. Your type of people would punish us for living on land settled by others 200 years ago. Enjoy tossing your salt in our wounds Bea, we see you for what you are, a GODAMN TROLL.
Actually, Greg, I think she’s just looking for something that she hasn’t found yet…..and she doesn’t know what it is!
Sorry Bea, but I had typed a long and articulate letter for you, and the computer shut down and reloaded…so bye bye…but I’ll get back to you later…I think you have some redeaming grace, after all!
Her mind perhaps ? ha ha ha……
You mean my great sense of humor? Like “Lipstick on a Pig?” — Obama was referring to Washington politics — it’s a very common expression.
Either way it is funny you have to admit –
What about domestic dogs? They maim and kill more children and adults than wild animals any day.
What is a troll?
If you want to protect the animals, Bea, why don’t you start with all the dogs and cats that are slaghtered every day, every hour of the day, in every city of the country? Do you know how many dogs and cats you already have in the country, and how many thousands are “exterminated” every day? Why don’t you care about them? Or are they any “less” to you, because man has domesticated them?
Just what would happen if you could “save” them…who would feed, house, and protect them, as well…And what about all the animals that are killed to feed them? What are you going to do with all the animals you save? Seems to me, to be a BIG logistics problem, there!
Personally, I think you need to take a good look at death. And how that’s a big part of life. And until you understand how death is a part of life, then you have no understanding of hunting or the value of life! Or the kind of life to value!
Just think, you could save 30-40 dogs and have them live with you and your family! Wouldn’t that be wonderful!
Guaranteed the wolves are proliferating in Yooperland. Of course, the DNR (Damn Near Russia) had brought some in also. Often wonder if that had an impact on things. Good to see this information brought to the forefront and will hopefully assist those in Maine on ideas how to prevent the same.
I read most of the comments at tha WLUCTV-6 website and concluded the majority of those from UM are more tolerant of wolves than are westerns; this is not a new observation.
At one time I had a flock of ducks and lost some to predation. After I got geese the losses to wild critters stopped. Geese are great watch animals, agressive and noisey. The neighbors lab bitch dispatched a few of my chickens, she was introduced to a goose and gander with goslings. He worked her over with wing and bill; she never returned.
I wonder why the geese and ducks didn’t go into the pond pictured at the site? How come the owners didn’t wake up? It takes a while even for wolves to dispatch that many birds.
Bea, I have also mentioned dogs and even deer intentionally killing people. I have not looked into fatalities caused by elk and moose. Someone wrote into the WLUCTV-6 website with a gorey tale of wolves killing 3 people in Arkansas in summer 1864. There were no eye witness accounts of how they died. Their remains were not found until after the bones were bleached and scattered. Reporters apparently used their imagination: “Stones, clubs and chunks of dead wood that she had used in resisting the atack lay scattered on the down-trodden grass.” Now I ask why is the grass still down-trodden. Grass grows faster than bones bleach. Possibly there were more dangerous threats than wolves for a black woman and her two children in Arkansas in 1864.
In the East we live side by side with coyotes , foxes,and bears.. Ihave had bears get geese as well as coyotes (sub-species because they inter-bred witrh the timber wolf while moving east) It happens get over it. Do we need to
kill everything!!!!
Dawn, maybe YOU live with coyotes, foxes, and bears, but the simple fact is, is that once ANY predator becomes too prolific, they endanger not only all the creatures they prey upon, but endanger themselves with starvation and disease due to lack of food and the diseases that occur when the animals system is breaking down due to the “over predation”….
Man has to be in charge of the environment that we have created, or else we would have to leave it entirely….and there is no place where we have done that. Our influence is everywhere in the continental United States, since we have moved into every portion of it. And our “influence” effects the entire ecosystem. If you would have nature natural, we would have to move everyone out and back to Europe, or maybe back to an isolated island where we wouldn’t effect anything but us…..and that ain’t happening.
Fact is, we need to be RESPONSIBLE for wildlife and the balance of what we want in nature, and that includes limiting the number of wolves as well as coyotes, bears and the like…..and the best understanding we have of what is happening in the woods is not some biologist who goes there once or twice and writes a paper convincing everyone he is right, but listening to the people who live and hunt in the woods where they spend their lives in seeing first hand the way animals are and what is happening.
The problem here is that all people do not agree on “the balance of what we want in nature”. I know that you and I want a different balance. Who decides?
There are also large areas of “wilderness” where a more natural rather than man made order is possible. Perhaps a few areas closed to humans could be considered. (ANWR for example)
Why does man “own” all land and the other critters nothing?