New World Record Brown Bear?
January 29, 2007
*Updated February 11, 2007* For more on this story, including the truth as told by this girl’s father, read this story!
Here’s the unconfirmed story and photos!!! This nine year old girl from the Yukon shot this record brown bear in Alaska on the Alaskan Peninsula in October 2006. Skull size – 33 1/16, 11 feet 9 inches nose to tail, estimated weight – 1,800 pounds. Supposedly this was her first ever bear hunt.
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Some true some not It’s not a world record and here is what bear hunting magazine is saying
From “Biggest Bears Of 2006″ in the March/April 2007 issue of Bear Hunting Magazine, due on newsstands late February 2007:
If the “biggest bear” is determined as a ratio of the size of the bear to the size of the hunter, Fern Spaulding-Rivers is probably setting records that will never be broken. The 10 year-old from Talkeetna, Alaska has already harvested great trophies of most of Alaska’s major game species, and she is a handloading fanatic as well. Fern’s larger caliber rifles have a muzzle brake and a recoil pad and she also wears a custom-made padded shooting vest from McCoy Shooting Armor to help her withstand big bore recoil. Fern was carrying her Remington 700 Stainless chambered in .375 H&H while brown bear hunting on the Alaskan Peninsula with her father and mother on May 10th, 2006 (when she was 9 years old). As the day progressed she and her father saw 11 bears. At one point, they were charged by a pack of wolves, and they had to dispatch some with the nearest at only 8 paces! Later, they spotted a big bruin in a gully at 32 yards. With all the excitement of the day beginning to show, Fern asked Larry to hold her legs steady while she shot because her knees were shaking. Fern rolled the bear with her first shot, but the bruin regained it’s footing and tore off across the tundra. Shooting again from a prone position, Fern dropped the behemoth for good with a second 270 grain Barnes Triple-shock at 112 yards. The United States Fish and Wildlife Service measured the bear’s hide at 11′4″ from nose to tail. The skull has been officially scored at 29 1/16″ Boone and Crockett. What does Fern think of bear hunting? “Do you know how big an 11′ bear looks at 30 yds? It’s kinda scary! They are about the size of a Volkswagen bus and when they swing their head to look your way they remind you of a T-Rex in Jurassic Park!” Her trophy brown bear now puts her in an elite class. Fern is a tremendous example to young hunters everywhere, and she is a great hunter regardless of her age.
Check this out
http://www.larryrivers.com/ferns_brownbear.htm
Thanks Moose! Somehow I figured I could count on you to come up with the story.
[...] I post them out here but often I just chase down the real story for my own sense of satisfaction. Tom over Black Bear Blog gets many of the same posts and today I saw his post about the young girl shooting the record book [...]
It’s just come to my attention how this story is circulating and growing! So far, its has a bit of truth associated with it which is surprising in itself! I dont want to damage the growth of a good stories development, but for those interested here are some of the facts. First off, I have some authority to say these facts are correct because I took the photos…being Ferns dad and all.
First off, the date was May 10, 2006, opening day of the season. Location was the Alaska Peninsula. We did see 6 wolves, 5 came near (10 yds or less) and looked at us before departing on the run. One watched the whole proceedings from about 200 yds away and after the first 5 left, he put the sneak on us. We stook up waved our arms, yelled and identified ourselves. He speed up into full charge. With our eyes locked together I shot him a few steps away. It was the first full, unquestioned wolf charge I have experienced in 35 years of guiding in Alaska. (I hold a Master Guide license). So, we were not attacked by a pack of wolves, only one healthy adult that WAS NOT rabid.
The skull dried for 8 months before being measured. (60 days is the official requirement) After this extended period it still measured an official 29 1/16″, which puts it well up in the B&C record books, though I dont know exactly where. Like any father I will say Fern is exceptional, because she is my daughter… but she is still just a little gal in grade school that does her homework at the end of the day, and plays with Barbie’s. The only difference between her and any other child is that she is nuts about shooting and hunting. Don’t ask her about any game animal, she is going to tell you tell you more then you have the time or the desire to hear about. 
My advise to you fathers, if your kids express an interest in hunting, take them out and let THEM hunt, don’t take them to watch you hunt. Make it a black bear, or a deer, something that they can get excited about! Let them shoot that huge buck, and you shoot the squirrel, not the other way around. The interest won’t last forever if you don’t nurture it. Too many other things can take its place. Even then it may not last forever, so enjoy it while you can. Larry Rivers
The bear was spotted 2 miles away. We stalked to under 20 yds. First shot was at 32 yds as the bear moved across in front of us. We could only see the top 1/3 of his back and Fern shot for the spine. The bullet passed under it, rolled the bear, and he WALKED away down a draw. We moved some and she dropped him with a second shot at 112 yds. One of the three largest bears we have taken in over 1/3 century of guiding…absolutly huge. Hide weighed 197 lbs without skull. Green it measured 11′ 8″ SQUARE, not tall, not nose to tail. Some may not know the difference and I can explain if needed. It took several days to get it out of the field and hides shrink as they dry. When squared by USF&W it measured 11′ 4″, and it had not been fleshed yet. Fleshing a hide always allows it to lay flatter and gives 3 or 4 additional inches, so we dont know what it would have squared fresh and green if it had been fleshed as it just didn’t happen. I’ve long said there have never been any 12′ bears, so 11′ 8″ is good enough otherwise it would make me a liar over the past 35 years
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[...] so long ago the Black Bear Blog had a story about a young girl killing a trophy bear and like many of the stories on the net there [...]
I hope the bear that you sniped over a long distance is going to somehow kill you in the next life or something. You should have a sense of ethic, don’t shoot an animal from a kilometer away with a sniper rifle. Just so you know, you killed a creature that didn’t harm any human being.
HP – 1. Bears DO kill human beings 2. Is an ethical kill a close kill? I am not sure ethics have anything to do with the distance from which you kill animal. The end result is the same. If you kill a fly with your hand are you being more ethical than if you used a fly swatter which puts you farther away from the kill? Or is your argument that killing an animal is unethical? If so, then when a bear kills a fish is it being unethical? As much as it good that you posted your opinion – I don’t see the logic in your statement.
HP – I think what you are really saying is that you don’t approve of killing a bear…period. I also assume that means you don’t approve of killing any living creature. A difficult task to achieve but regardless, I respect your beliefs as there are many people who think the same way.
However, attempting to force your ideals onto others is an effort in futility really.
I recently saw a television interview with a man who runs an 11,000 acre elk hunting ranch in Idaho. The interviewer questioned the man about ethical hunting. I liked his response. It went something like this:
Ethics is an interesting subject and one that leaves too many questions unanswered. To be honest, I have yet to find an ethical way to kill any animal.
hey HP have you ever seen a bear before or ever gone hunting or been in the woods. if you have not been then you are missing out and if you have you are just an idiot anyway for being an anti hunter. and fern that is one awesome bear and i hope that you continue to hunt and enjoy it.
This is my first time in a hunting web site. I was looking for bear pictures in google, and I got here somehow.
I live in Spain. In my country are less than 30 brown bears left. Of course, hunting them is strictly forbidden.
I just wanted to say something.
I don’t hunt, but I can understand how you guys feel when hunting, because I love fishing (always practise catch&release) and it’s similar in someways.
But, where is the value in killing a bear, or any other animal, for fun and safe away from any risk, with such precise weapons? It’s like fishing with dinamite, that’s where I get lost.
How can you enjoy watching an unawared animal fall dead, or severely injured? that’s the real point.
It’s not about ethic, it’s way more deeper: “…we are human, we are “stronger”, we can kill, and so do we…” Hunting (and fishing) are primary instincts which should be controlled. None of you need to kill any other animal just for fun, it’s no good, it’s sad. It’s depressing, if you think about it.
You have a huge responsability over there in the US. You have an amazing country, unbelievable. You MUST preserve it. But I supposed that’s a very high demand, having in account all the respectless politics and practises that the US government carries out all over the world, from Irak, to everywhere else.
We all live in the same place. Those animals you kill for fun are also related to me, somehow. I just can’t stand them being shot to death by people who will sleep tight and happy at night, as if they had done nothing shameful and terrible.
I hope you one day, realise. Or, I do, if it’s me who is wrong.
Good night.
e.
You have clearly shown us you are not a hunter as you have proven you know absolutely nothing about it. Why is it you think it is done strictly for “fun” and that you perceive it as being like fishing with dynamite.
If you really feel this way about killing an animal, then you had better give up fishing. Regardless of who spins the story about catch and release fishing, fish die from the stress of being caught and then released.
You are actually a hypocrite to think you are somehow above a hunter because you “think” you don’t needlessly kill fish. You have a lot to learn.
ERS – your thoughts are interesting. Man has been killing animals for food for generations. Hunting became too hard for many of our ancestors and, therefore, meat can be purchased in a grocery store. Somehow, some people feel that fencing in animals and driving them towards slaughterhouses is more noble than hunting for their own wild free ranging animals like deer. If this is the way you get your meat – your noble argument falls dead.
I find it interesting that you say their is only 30 bears in your country where hunting is restricted. In my province, bear populations are estimated to be at more than 100,000 animals. How? This is because bear populations are managed through ethical and scientific hunting practices. Not through the denial of science and NOBLE arguments like yours.
I too practice catch and release but also enjoy a good shore lunch of fish. Yet, I still manage to sleep well at night?
Can you sleep knowing that your country as decimated its population of bears through non-hunting ideals?
That is shameful and terrible.
I don’t believe this story at all Daddy Probably shot it and let take the credit. I live in WV and you would not believe the Lady Hunters have here during white tail season. One lady was suposed to killed a 14 point buck so the field tag said it was killed in Grant County at 7am
but she was verified at work at that exact time.
Buy the way she works for the FBI in Charleston some 100+ miles away from Grant County.
ERS,
You should come to America and go bear hunting with me, we start the dogs at 7:00AM at the bait site, after tracking the dogs over mountain and meadow for miles and 12 hours later we finnally catch all the dogs up and guess where the bear is, That Runnin Sucker is long gone. Never even seen him, Oh I take that back, I got glimpse of him once, still was fun though. He didn’t even kill a dog this trip, this was a good day, you should see a bad day. 95% of the time when we do catch the bear in a tree, we let him go, because he wasn’t the one we was looking for. How precise is that, gosh, you Spanish fellers should have a talk with that Nazi King Carlos and get your hunting rights restored there, and tell the King for me to bugger off with his agenda of world dominance before he gets put up a tree.
That animal deserves more than to be killed by a child a fraction of its own age. No offense and its great that the kid hunts but you should be a bit older and more aware of what you are doing, and why you are doing it. I know when i was that young I would not have appreciated it nearly as much as i should.
This kid is hooked for life!! She may never get another as big as this but my bet is she will keep trying. Wouldn’t it be great that if in the future she had the chance to raise up a child. Do you think that child would learn to hunt? Moms have so much influence in our lives. Just imagine a freedom loving mom like her! Should be more of it. Then our hunting future would be more secure. You Go Girl!!
You go girl! I also hunt,and at the age of 54, got the trophy of my life!(so far). I am from WI and got a 625# black bear @ 35yds. This was the 2nd of my goals as a cancer survivor. The 1st was a 146 Pope and Young 10 point whitetail. The 3rd will be to take my daughter on a archery elk hunt. This hunt was delayed this year due to another bout with cancer, but I will handle this again. I have lots of hunting to do. I am glad to see that other girls are into the thrill of hunting. In this day and age there are so many other bad things they could be getting into.
Linda – YOU go get em girl! God bless and I’ll pray for your good health!
I dont think hunting is bad if your going to eat what you kill.Its better than eating an animal thats been pumped with fateners and tortured its short captive life but hunting just for fun is bad
Makes me sick to think people get off on killing animals…leave them to live in peace. Fools
Danny grow up you obviously don’t have a clue about the real world.
I think ERS is completely right. I hunt, I fish, but in no way do I hunt for fun, as that is just sick. I DO hunt bears… But I eat them. I guarentee this bear was not consumed, instead his hide and skull were takin to show off and his carcass left for waste. I also dont think people so young (male or female) should hunt as they dont understand what they are really doing, they cant understand the magnitude of taking a life. Ever since i was 4 years old i had access to a gun of some sort but my dad (a non-hunter) said “have respect for every animal, and never waste a thing”. That talk has completely dictated my ethic when it comes to hunting.
Interesting “hunter” ethics comments……..soooooo many
hunters with such sooooooound advice.
I’m particularly partially to the “guarantee” that the bear was not consumed. Erik must know the family and exactly what they did with the bear.
One of the first things an anti-hunter does when visiting websites is to first state that they hunt and fish and then they tell us all how barbaric it is, etc. etc.
Good advice though – have respect for all animals and never waste a thing. Why is it that you Erik no everything there is about the father and daughter who did this hunt?
Or are you one who ASSumes that only the elite hunters like yourself know the “right” way to hunt and that everyone else is wrong and “evil”.
I ‘m thinking we still wore nappies. Farts still have lumps at 4
An unforgettable memory between daddy and daughter doing something that they cherish is what hunting is all about, and the satisfaction that the picture provides is icing on the cake. Well done, but dont expect everyone to understand the the value in it, some just are just weak to have the nerve to leave their mark. HAPPY HUNTING
i hate it how you have killed such a beautiful creature as it had no right to die. you are all monsters.
It died just like that cow did that gave you that beautiful Big Mac you probably had last week.
“It took several days to get it out of the field and hides shrink as they dry.” “Hide weighed 197 lbs without skull.” Sounds like they didn’t bring out the meat. If that is the case it didn’t die like the cow. It was a magnificant bear!
The point is weather the bear killed was shot with a 338. or a bolt through the brain like the cow.
Dead is Dead.
Why is it it’s o.k. to kill domestic livestock but not a bear which was taken legal and fair chase.
We as hunters are far from monsters.
Idaho rules require the harvesting of the meat from bears, which I agree with and I have ate some MAGNIFICANT bear steaks. Some States or provinces do not require harvesting of the meat of bears, I am confident the father and daughter team, after making the MAGNIFICANT SHOT on the bear obeyed all local rules of harvest management whatever those rules were at that time. Perhaps their guide took the meat and butchered it up for the local people in the area, which is usaully the case. Too bad we don’t know forsure all the facts then we wouldn’t need poor Lee assuming they were wasteful barbaric hunters only in search of a hide and skull. BUT LEGAL IS LEGAL..
you all suck and i hope one day that you become the hunted one , what a bunch of pussies with high powered rifles .
the one and only time to kill is in defense of your life
I hope you see the what you are doing before there is nothing to shoot at except each other .
burn
Yep, we all suck on air just like you do Darragh Nolan, and when we shoot our big nasty high powered rifles the barrels suck air back into themselves after the burst of power which sends our bullets screaming to their targets and kills our game for the dinner table. I can suck my skinny but cheeks together to, can you? I can suck the marrow out of the bones of my kills can you ? Why, I am laughing so hard right now I am really sucking some air here to, my eyeball just sucked a tear back under the lid from my laughter at you. Yep we all suck at something including you.
Greg, you sound like a moron. Darragh obviously doesnt see eye to eye with you but theres no sense in making up some idiotic poem.
Your lacking in imagination Erik, and the prior moron Darragh desrved it. If you can’t handle rock fights don’t pick one up and throw it.
I come from a long-lived hunting family. While I’m not a hunter, I have several relatives that are. If I absolutely needed the food, I’d hunt, but since I don’t and have several stores nearby, I buy my meat. I leave the hunting to those who enjoy it for whatever reason, but they do so for the meat, NOT TROPHIES.
I find deer on my property where their heads have been cut off and taken. These redneck idiots in my area simply leave the meat, poach out of season and make a huge mess all over the place where they hunt. Litter, broken trees and chainsaw marks in the bark to mark their places, wounding the trees and in some cases killing them as well. Idiots.
From all indications, it looks to me like this girl and her dad DID NOT take the meat with them, only the “trophy” parts (which is pretty pathetic.). Even if their guide took the meat, what is the point of eating bear meat and killing such a huge, beautiful animal? (I’ve eaten bear meat and in my opinion, it’s not worth hunting it down, greasy and quite gamey.) What “fun” comes from killing it? Do the guys at the slaughter house have “fun” killing cows? In this day and age, killing a bear is simply a pathetic attempt at proving yourself dominant against nature – with a high-powered rifle and scope. There’s no honor in that kind of hunting. My relatives hunt with bow, never up in a stand and have learned to track animals using zero bait or scent (or worse yet, dogs).
I’m not against hunting, but I am against hunting certain animals that are only hunted for trophy purposes. Look at what happened in Africa from “trophy” hunts over the centuries… now many species are on the edge of extinction.
So, go ahead “trophy” hunters… just keep taking bears or whatever other animal you consider game for your “sport”. It obviously makes up for some kind of empty place you have in your psyche to dominate a wild animal for no GOOD reason and kill it, needlessly. Soon, this old planet will be barren of your “trophies”. I wonder what you’ll hunt then… each other?
Johnny, Your first statement contradicts the second…and I seriously doubt that you were anywhere near anyone hunting, or you would understand it better. Anyone can lie on the internet, and make themselves into something they’re not..and I can see that you are one of those….There is no credibility to your statements, because any hunter can see through what you are saying…
Hunters like to HUNT….and that involves both the meat, the trophy, the challenges, and the beauty of being in the woods where we hunt. You’re trying to take away from something you know nothing about…and I mean NOTHING!
You sound like a kid that thinks he knows it all but understands nothing…When poachers give hunters a bad name, it’s only to those people who can’t see the truth of what legal and challenging hunting is all about…I’m 65 years old and I still hunt with a bow, as well…but I also know that there is another challenge in hunting with a good scoped rifle or a muzzleloader…and I don’t criticize hunters that hunt different than I do…because we all have our own inability, and our own challenge…
And African “trophies” were decimated by native “poaching”, rather then by American trophy hunters…who have contributed much in the way of dollars and preservation of habitat to areas which were being poached by the natives.
If you want to find “honor” in hunting, I would suggest that you try hunting yourself, first, and then tell me how easy it is, and how little honor is in it!
Dont you think its pathetic hunting a harmless animall minding its own buisness? What if you were out lokking for food one day and someone shot you just to be mounted on a wall or turned into a rug? Thats not why animals are here. If your going to hunt you why dont you go wrestle the animal? Because your scared? So instead you have to hide behind your rifle and take an inocent animals life for sport. Wheres the fun? Why cant you just watch them instead of killing them? Its really pathetic.
I’ll tell you what is pathetic. It’s you anti hunting tree hugging twig eaters that never contribute anything to wildlife but you bogus opinions.
Hunters do more for wildlife than any other group of people anywhere.
If you had any knowledge about hunting you would know that.
Maybe he’s a vegetarian, Jim, and only eats what some snot grew in his basement…but chances are, he just had somebody else kill and clean and cook and serve him a slice of the ass end of a north bound steer…
Hi, Tom and company
Gabe and Johnny, please don’t be affended when I say that your perspectives on hunting is like, a car saleman explaining to a heart surgeon how to perform heart surgery. You need to spend some time shopping at the ‘Perspective’ store and remember that the deaper and larger the perspective you want to buy the more it costs you. Remeber, at this store, a million dollars gets you zilch. This store requires unbiased research, logical thinking, researching history, and the time-tested best one of all (in your case the elusive) personal experience. Do one of these things and you can buy twice the amount of perspective that you have now (which is none). Do all these things and you can buy whopper of a peice of perpective, and you might have logical, well thought out perspective and that’s something to be proud of. But really, on a serious note. I am willing to purchase for you, some history and you’ll be well on your was to having a little perspective. Hunter’s, like myself, Tom, Jes and Greg know that the American Hunter is the reason why we have the populations of animals today, that were brought back from near extinction around the turn of the century. We the American Hunters have spent billions and billions of our own hard earned money to do this. We have spent money, time and pesonal equipment on the restoration of habitat, predator control programs (you’ll have to search deep for that beautiful nugget) winter feeding and much much more. And remember, the Tweetie bird watcher is a little tit-mouse that suckles on the American Hunter and always has and always will, because in large part they are all ‘liberals’ which by definition, rarely pay their own way, but expect the hard working conservative to pay their way for them. Just ask your president. I feel like a teacher with great expectation about the great little minds he will be teaching. So go and spend some time massing your (wealth of knowledge) and when you have enough in the bank, maybe you’ll be able to purchase a little bit bigger perspective than you have now.
State game laws are not consistent when it comes to salvaging (saving and using/eating) bear meat. Alaska game laws do not require a hunter to salvage the meat of an Alaska brown bear. In recent years states such as Idaho have required hunters to salvage black bear meat whereas previously this was not the case. I agree with this change in game laws as it is an appropriate rule. I have hunted Alaska brown bears on a number of occasions since 1982 in the same general area where Fern killed her bear. I met her father at his camp near Cold Bay, AK in 1986. Larry is an excellent hunter and guide. Fern is an outstanding young woman and her parents are to be complimented with introducing her to hunting and mentoring her on her hunts. The person who belittles the degree to which a young person can appreciate all of the various aspects of hunting likely did not hunt as a youth nor has this person mentored a young hunter and observed the depth of understanding and feelings young hunters have about hunting. The key to the youth hunter’s knowledge and appreciation is directly related to the quality of the teacher or mentor. I do not know Fern, but I am confident she can articulate a great deal about the hunt and what it meant to her. Conservation and fair chase hunting in the U.S. date back to 1888 when Theodore Roosevelt founded the Boone and Crockett Club. Hunters have been funding the conservation of our wildlife and hunting under self-imposed rules of fair chase hunting since that time.
I am a true native american from the plains and find people that kill for trophies to be fools that believe its thier god given rigth to kill animals without the intent of eating the meat. I have lived in Wyoming just out side of yellowstone for my whole life and have been around many bears. I can say that they will kill and eat a human if they need to eat bad enough, but they don’t kill for fun ever. So when you kill for trophies and not meat you have no respect for life. Point being, if you take the life of an animal show respect and eat the meat.
I found this story by accident, and am both amazed and heartened by the story of Fern’s big bear. I have lived, hunted and fished in Alaska all my life and hate nothing more than hearing reality t.v. watching, self righteous, mindless chicken loving animal rights advocates trying to tell outdoorsmen how evil and unethical they are. I’ve eaten just about every critter than swims crawls and flys, and was taught from a very young age to eat what I kill, for better or worse (an unfortunate situation after one’s shot a seagull)
For all of those real outdoorsmen who read this I say to you ignore these a–holes and psudo native americans “mic” who would teach you the “ethical” way to be a soulless easybake cookie cutter robot. Enjoy the woods, keep it clean, be safe and good luck next season.
P.S. most grizzleys and brownbear are carriers of a nasty little thing called Triginosis which makes their meat nearly unsalvagable.
Thats if you eat it, but if you dont your just a faggot who has nothing better to do then take an inocent animals life.
Hey Gabe the fact is your a twig eating punk. Why don’t you and your boyfriend go watch Bambi and shut the hell up.
That’s thinking with yer dip-stick, Jimmie. (whip-snap)
Coyotes gotta eat to, maybe some wolves stopped by for a free meal as well, all kinds of birds probably enjoyed the meal, natural causes or death by predation…same thing, some one else in the wild got a dinner, and that young Ladie made a fine shot…Oh the photo is cool to.
Gabe, faggot means a bundle of sticks tied together, sticks for a fire, and other practical things which have nothing to do with the twisting slang term you seem to think it meant…
SODOMITE is likely what your looking for.. Like Barney Frank, in fact like most of the political parties come to think of it…Larry Craig, Most leaders are SODOMITES, like Obama for example is a closet SODOMITE, actually. The Rockefellers who stole America’s public school system are SODOMITES, and they also are behind this anti hunting and enviro crap, which is all lies..
So SODOMITES tricked you…Learn english, and grow up.
ok im sorry but im 12 so ive never heard the word sodomite.
Im soryy. im 12 and have never heard the word sodomite.
oops
I got my first deer at twelve, dad made it into sausage. I then had a lotta cheese and crackers an sausage.
Well then Gabe you probably don’t know this either, weather, other animals, and nature itself kills more animals in the wild than hunters do.. What hunters harvest annually is small in comparison..
I didn’t grow up in the city, I grew up in the mountains so I was taught to hunt and use wild things for survival.
Think about the things you enjoy doing and how you would feel if someone or several people said it was bad and passed laws to make you stop doing those things you like to do, maybe you like to ski, or ride a mountain bike, well the people who want to stop hunting are doing that to people like me, and what happens when we take rights away from other people some day they then want to take away your rights you like, like skiing or riding a bike, maybe hiking..Some people make up lies in order to make other people look bad when really their not bad at all…
It doesent matter what happened to the meat of this bear, it was none of our business, and it was the responsiblity of the dad and daughter who harvested that bear to decide what they thought was morally right to do. If any local laws had been violated we would have heard about it.. If one hunter throws meat away he either had good cause or not.. All hunters don’t do it. And in some area’s the larger bears need to be kept under control to keep people safe, So a few are removed by hunting, and others are left alone..
Now you learned some more.. : )
Funny, at 12 years old, Gabe, you write well. I’m very impressed with what you
are doing…………………
Who’s been teaching you these ethics?
He meant 12 mentally possibly since this fits the John Dewey model via Rockefeller funding of dumbing down u.s. corporate serfs..Thats what we are dealing with, communist indoctrinated mental midgets, they think their smart until the run into a concrete Constitutuitonal Wall of reality..And a little Noah Websters 1828 english..
Ar, myself and Greg, I dont know what most of that stuff means but im really 12
I have to plug Tom right now with thanks for that GTX Castrol add above ’cause
‘that’s thinking with yer dip-stick, jimmie…”
Gabe,
If your really only 12 then I will appologize for calling you a Punk.
However you should do a little research on a subject before just jumping in.
Hunters like this little girl and her father are the reason you enjoy the wildlife that is here today.
All I know is I am so hungry right now I could eat the ass out of a skunk, I’m going to the kitchen to do some huntin…
I often wonder about kids like Gabe whose electronic parents taught him everything he knows while his real parents were off trying to recapture their squandered youth, when you grow up with asphalt under you feet every day and your biggest concern being what t.v. show you’re going to watch as you do just the bare minimum to get through the ridicilous farce of a school system what type of real values do you gain? I would like to see how long any of these naysayers and wannabe animal rights activists would stick to their untested and unchallenged beliefs when the only thing between them and twelve hundred pounds of pissed off griz is four pounds of steel and a limited supply of pitifully small projectiles. If you think Yogi Bear and pandas who won’t even screw to save their own species are the norm than get off your fat ass and trek into the woods, or across the tundra. When you get eaten like that stupid ass Tredwell, you can die knowing that you truely have given your life to prove just how stupid you are. I’ve seen what a bear can do to a human body, I’ve stalked close enough to bears as big as the one Fern shot to hear them breathing and smell their sour ass stink with little more than canvas and cotton ‘tween us two. There is no high better than knowing you are only a shift of wind or a dry branch beneath your feet away from being dinner. If you want to have a say about MY sport, hobby, and general way of life come to Alaska, catch the ferry to Kodiak and hike into the woods WITHOUT a gun, find the biggest, fluffiest bear you can and give him a hug. Don’t worry, he’ll recgonize you as a fellow child of mother nature…or you can shut the hell up and go back to watching Will and Grace.
Hi Fern Spalding-Rivers,
I think it is awsome that you and your family enjoy hunting and the outdoors together. What a HUGE BEAR for such a little girl. My husband and I have also raised our children hunting, fishing and camping around the state of Alaska for the last 40 years. Now we are teaching our grandchildren the same things. What better way to bond the family together. I commend your parents for taking the time to teach you how to be comfortable in the wilderness. Take lots of pictures so you can remember those exciting times in your life when you get older.
Another thing I would like to say is that in my opinion there is an over population of bears and wolves in Alaska, at presant and they are killing many of the caribou and moose calves, so a thinning of predators is a good thing, for now. A friend of ours that lives in the interior of Alaska, came back to his cabin in the woods and found a small herd of caribou slaughtered by wolves on his lake. All that they ate from their kills were their noses. The same thing happened last summer when I was out of Ninilchik on a fishing charter. A pod of Orcas killed eight or nine sperm whales, and all that they ate were their noses and left the rest. Anytime nature is out of balance, I don’t see anything wrong in the taking of excess game or to just subsist. We rarely have ever wasted any wild game we have killed, but because of triginosis and the taste of bear meat at certain times of the year I wouldn’t blame your dad if he didn’t haul out all of that bear meat. Take care and good luck, Jackie.
i am 10 & i got a 3 point & a doe but nothing that big
yo hp i shoot animals do u have a problem with that
My son is 10 years old and has shot 4 deer. He just got onto this website, looking for hunting pictures, and was enraged when he read some of these posts. So now here I am trying to explain to him how not everyone sees eye to eye on certain subjects.
This comment from HP is what shocked him:
I hope the bear that you sniped over a long distance is going to somehow kill you in the next life or something. You should have a sense of ethic, don’t shoot an animal from a kilometer away with a sniper rifle. Just so you know, you killed a creature that didn’t’t harm any human being.
NICE…HP. Way to teach these kids. You hope the bear kills someone..I really enjoyed explaining how ignorant people can be by making dumb, hurtful comments like that. His father shot a bear and donated the meat….he want’s to know if you hope a bear kills HIS father.
As for the other anti-hunters….I was never around hunting until I met my husband. Do some research, go take a hunters safety course and you’ll most likely find out that these ‘monsters’ are actually helping. Do you realize how much crop damage some of these animals cause. For those vegetarians…you might care once your food is in jeopardy. I’m not saying I agree with all hunts…I don’t, but a lot are needed.
For the people who have a problem with the age of some of these kids who are hunting…do you have kids? I have 2 children who are intreged by the whole process. It’s not for fun, they are well educated on the importance of safety and know that this is food for our family. My son was so proud to know that he helped feed his family with something he harvested with his father.
Hunting and fishing is a wonderful way for a family to spend time together. I applaude all those mothers and fathers who choose to spend this huge part of their life with their child, educating them and making wonderful memories instead of walking out the door and leaving them behind.
So all who call these hunters ‘monsters’…why don’t you go to the websites that actually have ‘monsters’….rapist, child abusers, child abductors…heck even the humane league who put animals to death…go save a dog who didn’t hurt anyone.
My son is 10 years old and has shot 4 deer. He just got onto this website, looking for hunting pictures, and was enraged when he read some of these posts. So now here I am trying to explain to him how not everyone sees eye to eye on certain subjects.
This comment from HP is what shocked him:
I hope the bear that you sniped over a long distance is going to somehow kill you in the next life or something. You should have a sense of ethic, don’t shoot an animal from a kilometer away with a sniper rifle. Just so you know, you killed a creature that didn’t harm any human being.
NICE…HP. Way to teach these kids. You hope the bear kills someone..I really enjoyed explaining how ignorant people can be by making dumb, hurtful comments like that. His father shot a bear and donated the meat….he wants to know if you hope a bear kills HIS father.
As for the other anti-hunters….I was never around hunting until I met my husband. Do some research, go take a hunters safety course and you’ll most likely find out that these ‘monsters’ are actually helping. Do you realize how much crop damage some of these animals cause. For those vegetarians…you might care once your food is in jeopardy. I’m not saying I agree with all hunts…I don’t, but a lot are needed.
For the people who have a problem with the age of some of these kids who are hunting…do you have kids? I have 2 children who are intrigued by the whole process. It’s not for fun, they are well educated on the importance of safety and know that this is food for our family. My son was so proud to know that he helped feed his family with something he harvested with his father.
Hunting and fishing is a wonderful way for a family to spend time together. I applaud all those mothers and fathers who choose to spend this huge part of their life with their child, educating them and making wonderful memories instead of walking out the door and leaving them behind.
So all who call these hunters ‘monsters’…why don’t you go to the websites that actually have ‘monsters’….rapist, child abusers, child abductors…heck even the humane league who put animals to death…go save a dog who didn’t hurt anyone.
You should see what a Canadian Sniper with a 50 Cal. Rifle can do to a Taliban insurgent. Shooting from one Afghanistan mountain ridge to another. Some shots are up to almost 2 miles. Caution though, this video is graphic!
This one is for the Animals before people world. Who really have no idea what kind of world man has made for himself.
tp://video.aol.com/video-detail/canadian-snipers-making-a-good-taliban/2934516794
This is how Americans and Canadians learn how to shoot so well. Practice and Application. Good shooting = free societies! So these animal before persons can have their say.
Read email before watching video
These are some examples of the fight in Afghanistan.. These video shots are not made through the shooter’s telescopic sight… they are made looking through the spotter’s scope. The spotter lies right next to the sniper and helps the sniper to find and home in on the target.
The sniper is using a 50 caliber rifle. A 50 cal. round is about 7-8 inches long and the casing is about an inch in diameter. The bullet itself is one-half inch in diameter and roughly one and one-half inches long.
Pay close attention to the beginning of the video. A Taliban is lying on top of the peak in front of you… when you hear the shot fired…. watch what happens. The sniper is also about a half mile away… or more.
A Canadian sniper in Afghanistan has been confirmed as hitting an enemy soldier at a range of 2,310 meters, the longest recorded and confirmed sniper shot in history. The previous record of 2,250 meters was set by US Marine sniper Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam in 1967. The Canadian sniper was at an altitude of 8,500 feet and the target, across a valley, was at 9,000 feet. Canadian sniper units often operated in support of US infantry units, which were grateful for their help. The record lasted only one day, until a second Canadian sniper hit an enemy soldier at 2,400 meters (8000 feet).
The Canadian snipers fire special .50-calibre McMillan tactical rifles, which are bolt-action weapons with five-round magazines. The Canadian snipers were the only Canadian troops operating without hel mets or flak jackets as they had too much other equipment to carry. Each three-man team has one sniper rifle, three standard rifles (Canadian C7s), one of them with a 203mm grenade launcher.
WARNING!! Flying Body Parts!!! Sniper Video
Sniper’s shooting humans from any distance is dry gulching, chicken shit, and murder it don’t matter who’s side their on.. The only good sniper is taking out another sniper to protect his crew. That’s a man on that ridge, that’s our brother and we are trespassing on his land..
@jes:
You can email me if you’d like and I’ll give you plenty of photographs of my family with many many deer and rabbit and squirrel they’ve hunted. I used to even hunt with them when I was a teenager and have photos to prove it. You can diss me all you want and claim that I’m a liar, but I’ve also hunted with my father and brothers when I was young. My father even told me I was the best deer stalker among them as I could get closer to game than any other male in the family. Yes, it’s the internet, but you’ll just have to take my word that everything in that post of mine is 100 percent true. I’m not a kid, I’m 50 years old, born in 59.
I also have many photos of the bodies of deer left on my 50 acre place in southern Indiana where people have hunted ONLY for the trophies. Sad, but also true. I also have photos of the damage and litter they’ve left behind. The photos were taken as evidence for the DNR in the county where my property is located to help stop the poaching.
As well, I’ve helped reclaim much of the land I purchased with oaks, hickories and other food source plants and trees to HELP the wildlife there. My property is a refuge for a lot of animals that are poached out of season most of the year. When I bought it back in ‘86, there were all types of mammals there, but now there’s not a squirrel or rabbit on the place. However, if you look around you can find plenty of shotgun shells and 22 shells from the idiots who’ve nearly hunted it down to nothing while I’m not around. So, there’s a nice little gem about how hunters help sustain the game. Perhaps in your neck of the woods, but in mine they keep the game almost extinct. The few deer I’ve seen were headless bodies.
Most of you trophy “hunters” have missed my point and I realize that talking to someone with the mentality shown on this board is like shouting to a boulder. I have nothing against hunting if it’s done correctly and HONORS the (correct kind of ) animals that are taken and the meat is used. Trophy hunting is basically a sick practice and the people in my family that hunt agree with me on this. There’s simply zero reason for it other than to stroke the ego of the insecure stooge behind the gun.
I’m pretty sure your Game Commission where ever your from? Would like to see your photos of the Headless deer mentioned. Where we come from sportsmen are encouraged to police our own ranks. Sportsmen Policing Our Ranks Together. SPORT
Reporting such behavior like trespass, littering and poaching. Did you show the deer carcasses to your Game wardens? I know we have dead wood among our ranks. But if your as ethical as professed you would report such activity to the proper authorities. Trust me they do get results.
Jesus did allot of work this week to save us from hell. But we still framed him on trumped up charges and murdered him! anyway We had our choice (one last time) to accept him or a lying murdering thief. We chose the lying murdering thief.
Proof given the choice we would not accept to walk in the light of Jesus. We would rather live in satins dark evil sinners paradise by are own choice.
War, Murder? I was just throwing out an example of what humans do to glorify the master of this planet Satin. Just to throw it into God’s face. Look See! these are your wonderful creation made in your image you must be soooo proud of them! If the video is true? That’s some pretty good shooting.
George, though you seem like a decent enough guy, albeit a bit too religious for my tastes, apparently your reading comprehension skills need some work.
REPEAT: The photos were taken as evidence for the DNR in the county where my property is located to help stop the poaching.
In this county in southern Indiana from what I’ve seen, hunters encourage each other to poach as much as possible while the ONE half-trained DNR officer tries to police acres and acres of forest and takes bribes to look the other way when it’s someone influental. How’s that for your SPORT? Typical of the corruption that pretty much is endemic to the U.S. at this point, from top to bottom.
If this really is a problem in YOUR state Johnny then get out their with your camera and bust em..But please don’t include IDAHO in this Liberal toss em all under the bus mentality since they did it here they must do it every where…hang us all, a few bad apples, kill em all let God sort em out, your just like your enemy…
Let servitude ring in America, burn my neighbors Liberty, Oh goodness I helped that tyrant enslave me and now I wish I was free..Keep on heading on Johnny your gonna love the future..and when you get there remember who helped get you there, YOU..
What county would that be? I would like to contact your state and ask what if anything is being done about this pandemic of trespass and poaching. I’m sure Tom and others on our SPORT will do the same to help put a stop to your being singled out for undesirable attention.
In Indiana you would contact T.I.P. Turn In A Poacher. Southern DNR Law Enforcement Districts are 7,8,9 Encompassing the lower 31 counties.
District 7 Headquarters
2310 E. SR 364
Winslow, IN 47598
(812) 789-9538
District 8 Headquarters
3084 N Dillard Rd.
Birdseye, IN 47513
(812) 685-2498
District 9 Headquarters
11050 Keeler Rd.
Brookville, IN 47012
(765) 647-5835
If I had to guess I would say your poaching is occurring within the Hoosier National Forrest . Like all states Indiana has programs in place to combat this crime.
POACHING
WHEREAS, the fish and wildlife resources of the State of Indiana are regarded as an invaluable part of our national heritage, and
WHEREAS, conservation of our fish and wildlife resources includes enforcement of regulations as well as management, and
WHEREAS, enforcement of our fish and wildlife regulations is vested in the Division of Law Enforcement of the Department of Natural Resources of the State of Indiana, and
WHEREAS, poaching of fish and wildlife is an increasing problem in Indiana as well as other states, and
WHEREAS, poaching is detrimental to the landowner-farmer-sportsman-hunter relationship, and
WHEREAS, citizen education about poaching would be a significant benefit to all.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Indiana Wildlife Federation, Inc. in annual meeting assembled June 19, 1982 in Indianapolis, Indiana, hereby strongly urges the General Assembly and the Division of Law Enforcement of the Department of Natural Resources of the State of Indiana to develop a program to combat poaching, and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that a fund; derived from the sale of fishing, hunting, and trapping licenses, be maintained for the payment of rewards to the individual who supplies the information leading to the arrest and/or conviction of those individuals who violate state and/or Federal fish and wildlife regulations.
T.I.P.
Turn In Poachers (TIP)
Someone’s stealing Indiana’s wildlife. Cash rewards for information on poachers!
Turn In Poachers. Estimates indicate that poachers kill as much fish and game as legitimate hunters and fishermen. In addition, the wildlife law violator does not confine his killing to game species. Non-game, endangered and threatened wildlife may also be taken.
There is a joint effort of sportsmen and women, private citizens, and the Indiana Department of Natural Resources to eliminate the illegal taking of wildlife. This program is known as the TIP program.
A reward is given for information leading to the arrest of a wildlife violator. For big game and endangered species a minimum of $200 is offered; a $100 minimum for other cases.
Become a deterrent to poaching by calling our toll-free number to report violations.
To report a violation or violator, call 1-800-847-4367 (1-800-TIP-IDNR).
@jes: Should I mention how You have dissed the local enforcement agent when I call?
To some I am a decent enough guy. To others I’m not.
ONE half-trained DNR officer tries to police acres and acres of forest and takes bribes to look the other way when it’s someone influental.
Congratulations Fern!
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hey guys! while you are out looking to kill bears, hunting…why dont you go kill each other?!
its the same concept.
bears have a life just as humans do.
in fact, humans kill other humans more than bears do.
its a shame that people consider killing other beings as a “sport”
you guys are no better than al qaeda.
in fact you are worse.
you guys are all a bunch of trophy hunters.
and for what? for vanity purposes.
its great if you actually use the meat properly etc.
but just to kill another living being to “show it off” is wrong.
you guys should find better hobbies….
like f****ing each other’s a** holes
killers.
i hope while you are hunting, a bear comes from behind you and rips your heads off.
Hate abounds, bit tany. Iran would like you to move there. We are americans
here, in case you forgot – or never learned it.
Ignorance is not fatal. Stupidity is.
AL -CIA- DUH
brittany, when you grow up you will discover that there are many different types of people, and not all bears or people are the same. You have much to learn about the world and life, and your preconceived notions are typical of young people who don’t know much about life, and are intolerant of others, because they have never experienced either self-discipline or had someone correct them for their intemperate and uninformed views. Perhaps you should show your parents what you have written and see what they think! If they care about you, they will correct your opinions, which you are trying to imitate, but fail to understand. Good luck with growing up, I know it is a hard road when it comes to understanding things that seem difficult, but hunting is like life, you have to take the good with the bad, and everything is not as bad as you think it is, until you grow up and see it without the blinders you have on……
Congrats on your bear fern I hope to one day take a beutiful brown bear with my bow. I have curantly taken three black bears with my bow. I am 28 years old and just started hunting 3 years ago and I love it I wish I would have started years ago.
Congrats on your bear fern I hope to one day take a beutiful brown bear with my bow. I have curantly taken three black bears with my bow. I am 28 years old and just started hunting 3 years ago and I love it I wish I would have started years ago. You anti hunters hhhunters s
that is the most amazing bear i have ever seen! i have never seen a bear that big in my life! that is so cool! they are the worlds largest predator in the world!
Wow… That’s pretty much all I can say. I know so many people who are way older than 9 and have trouble even picking up a gun… Be proud of your kill dollface!!!
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