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One Heck Of A Wolf Story

July 8, 2006


Rod Davis sent me this story. I have tried unsuccessfully to verify its authenticity. If the date of the wolf attack ocurred at indicated in the story, it may be too soon to know if it is true. I generally will not post information unless verified but whether true or not, it’s quite a story – complete with two pictures. You decide! If anyone can help out with authentication, please let me know.

Lady and Blackey: Cry Wolf

By Scott Richard

Hi, my name is Scott Richards and I have lived in Grangeville , Idaho for the last 17 years. I have enjoyed training my hunting dogs for the past 34 years. To do this it takes a great deal of love for your dogs and for the great outdoors. I have always prided myself in the manner of which I train my dogs and take care of them. When I choose a new pup he or she spends the first 6 months of their life in my house. They are loved and a bond is there forever. I do not believe there are bad dog’s, just inexperienced owners. I have spent the last 4 years trying to introduce this sport to as many young people as I could. My photo albums are full of pictures with children setting under a tree with the dogs telling them good job. That has all changed now! The reason I am writing this story is not to debate whether the Canadian gray wolf should be or should not be here. I am not going to debate anyone about how many wolfs are really in the state of Idaho . I will say our Elk, Moose and Deer populations are in serious trouble now! The real reason I am telling this story is that I have a conscience, and what happened to my dogs and me last Wednesday 5/25/2006 at 9:45 in the morning. It’s been a few days now and the shock has turned from fear to disbelief to anger and now the major concern for the safety of anyone who lives in or visits are state. My life that I have loved raising and training these special working dogs is now over.

Crying wolf!!

This Wednesday morning started like most days when I am training dogs. I was a few miles from my house and turned up the hill on the Service Flats Road . I let my dogs out of the box; jumped into my truck and followed them up the road for a mile letting them clean out. I had 8 dogs with me and 7 of them were very experienced 2, 3, and 4 year olds. I had one 5 month old pup. I loaded 4 dogs on the top of the box and 4 inside the box. I did not have to drive far and the dogs sounded off letting me know a bear had crossed the road. My friend Bryon had driven up from Lewiston to train some of his young dogs. I turned out a 4 year old named Jasper, he left the road and let me know the track was fresh. I told Bryon turn his dogs loose as I did. They quickly dropped into a canyon where bears hang in the brushy bottoms in daylight hours. When all the dogs reached the bottom 5 dogs went up the other side of the canyon headed toward Fish Creek campground. The other group of dogs came right back up the hill to us. They put the bears in a tree 20 minutes later. The other group of dogs treed about the same time about 1- 1/2 miles away. Bryon and I went to the nearest dogs first. When we were under the tree we found they had a mature sow and a 2-year-old cub. We took a few pictures and we were back in the trucks ready to go to the other dogs. We drove back up to where we heard the group of 5 dogs top over and shortly there after tree the bear. When we checked where the dogs still had the bear treed. We drove as close as we could & stopped and listened, they were about 4 hundred yards away treeing solid. I made the decision to move the truck 200 yards to the low side of the saddle; this would be an easy way back with the dogs. When Bryon and I crested the hill instead of hearing a roar of barking dogs treeing we heard nothing. We were looking at each other like where did they go; we just heard them there 5 minutes ago. Then one dog barked in one place another barked 50 yards away. I said to Bryon that neither dog that we heard sounded like any of our dogs. He agreed. Then I heard a dog bark that I new was mine, but at the end of his bark there was a sharp yelp. Bryon and I headed down the hill in a hurry about 75 yards apart. About 300 yards down the hill I was stopped dead in my tracks by a big dark colored wolf. My Blackey dog was getting attacked, I was 20 yards away now and closing fast, screaming and yelling as I ran. I stopped at about 12 feet from the wolf and even though I was screaming and waving my arms the wolf did not break from the attack. Every time Blackey tried to run the wolf would sink his teeth into Blackey’s hindquarters. All the while I was screaming louder than I ever screamed in my life. Without any thought I picked up a 4-foot stick, stepped toward the wolf swung and hit a tree. When the branch went crack and the tree went thud the wolf instantly lunged at me. I remember thinking I was going to die. I ran from tree to tree straight up hill towards my truck. When that wolf lunged at me I believed I would have been seriously hurt or dead if not for Blackey. I did not see what took place, but what I heard was my dog giving his life to save me. As I reached the truck Bryon was digging in his truck for a gun. As I ran up he started yelling we got wolfs! I was trying to listen to him as I was searching for a gun as I took my pistol in my hand and turned toward Bryon, when I looked into his eyes I realized I was not the only one threatened by wolfs. We were heading back down to see if we could save Blackey or Lady or Halley, but there was no sound. I wanted to here a bell dingle or a bark but nothing. As Bryon and I hurried back to the truck to get my tracking box, I finally understood Bryon was able to fight off 3 wolfs and save 2 dogs. Snyper and Bullet, they were safe in the dog box with no life threatening injuries. With the tracking box in hand I tuned in on Ladies tracking collar and said to Bryon not Lady not Lady, but I new she was dead. Then I tuned to Blackey, and said to Bryon, he was dead, and then I tuned in Halley’s collar. 1 beep every 4 seconds that means all 3 dogs had not moved for at least 5 minutes. All dead! I was just standing there in shock. We decided to look for Halley first we were getting real close the receiver was pegging the needle on close and turned way down. I knew a few more steps and I would be looking at one of my babies. My heart skipped a beat when Halley’s tree switch went off, I didn’t know if she was alive or if a wolf was dragging her off. We ran the direction the needle was pointing and in a few yards there she was. She was trying to get up, her stomach was ripped open and her guts were hanging out a foot. She had over 60 bite marks deep gashes all over her body. Her stomach was torn in multiple spots. Bryon went into action, off came his shirt and we wrapped it tightly around her stomach. I carried her back to Bryon’s truck put her in the front seat and Brian headed for the Vets. I remember thinking I wouldn’t see Halley alive again. I started tracking Blacky next; it did not take long to find him. He wasn’t far from where the wolf came after me. He was dead and lying in a pool of his own blood. He was bit and torn so full of holes I just fell to the ground bawling and crying. I could not quit thinking he gave his life to save me. I was sitting there when it hit me Lady, better get to Lady. When I tuned her in I new she was within a 100 yards. I lined up with her collar and next thing I knew there she laid in a heap, her eyes wide open looking straight into my eyes. For one second I thought she might be alive. When I knelt down beside her I new she was dead. Its very hard to describe the type of death these dogs were handed. It was easy to see that the wolfs want to cripple there prey, torture it and then kill it. I have never seen a worse way for any animal or person to die. I made it back to town and took care of my dogs that made it through this nightmare that happened in the light of day. Then I headed to see if Halley needed to be buried. When I walked into the veterinarian’s office I was greeted with, Did you find the rest of your dogs? I tried to say they were all dead but could not get the words out; all I could do is cry. After a few minutes standing alone I heard a voice behind me say Halley is still alive do you want to see her? I instantly headed for the back room and when I turned the corner I saw this little black ball covered in stitches swollen twice her normal size. I stopped and said out loud oh my God Halley what have they done to you? When she heard me say her name she lifted her head, whined and waged her tail. I kneeled down and held her and comforted her. The whole time wondering if she was the lucky one or was Blackey and Lady the lucky ones. When I looked into her eyes it was easy to see the only reason she was still alive, the wolfs had choked her out. Her eyes were full of blood, they had left her for dead. The Doc said it was a miracle she was alive at all. Her lungs were badly damaged but what most concerned us all was infection from all the tears and bites. I knew this little dog had more heart and desire then a 1200lb grizzly bear and yet was as gentle with my granddaughters as my chocolate lab. If it were just a fight with infection she would win. So on the way home I called the Idaho Fish and Game to report what had happened. They were very understanding and I could tell they were sincere when they said they were sorry for my loss. They also made it clear there was nothing they could do for me and that there hands were tied. They said they would write the report, and call the federal agent. Justin the government trapper contacted me by phone and arranged to meet me first light in the morning. We were at the site of the attack early the next morning. We went to the site where I had laid Lady in the shade. She was gone without a trace. So I took Justin to where Blackey was laying and he had also disappeared. We searched around and found nothing. About that time a crow down below me called three times so we walked toward the sound. It did not take long and we were standing over the remains of the dog that saved me from harm. All that was left of him was his head and backbone. Had we been an hour later there would have been nothing left of him. We had spooked the wolfs off while they were finishing there prey. In 5 hours all we found of Lady was a pile of fresh wolf scat full of white, brown and black dog hair. Lady was a tri-colored walker, that color. Justin and I buried what was left of Blackey. We piled heavy stones on his grave and I walked away thinking that it could have been me. I could have been just a pile of wolf scat lying on the ground and leaving people wonder where I had disappeared to. I couldn’t help but think of the 22-year-old man who was killed and eaten by wolfs in Canada this winter. There’s been a slaughter on hound dogs and pets in Idaho and it is getting worse daily. I have been assured that if these wolfs kill any cows or sheep, goats, pigs, horses they will become a problem and will be dealt with, and the owners will be compensated. That’s a relief!! Dogs have no value to anyone in the government it seems. So what I love to do is over, I will not send another dog to slaughter or feed another starving wolf pack. My concerns now are that the wolfs are running out of easy prey and are now eating dogs. In wet muddy areas where elk and moose have always been plentiful, I no longer can find even a track. Per haps aliens took them off to a safer planet. I hope you did not find that funny. This is the first documented case in Idaho where the wolfs have eaten a dog after killing it. The real reason I had to write this story is Public safety. The people who live in this wonderful state are being left clueless to the dangers that await them, in our national forests. The general public is unaware of the danger that awaits them in our national forest and else where. Since I retired I have spent no less then 4 days a week in the mountains, what has amazed me are how many of these wolfs are right around peoples homes. When they are out of easy prey be ready. For as long as I can remember when you were in the mountains for any reason a dog by your side was a great defense to warn you of predators. I to believed in this. But now a dog is nothing more than bait to lure wolfs to you. Recently while cougar hunting with an associate of mine who is a licensed guide like myself had a wolf encounter. He was cougar hunting with a dog on a leash when three wolfs charged up on him. With waving arms and a screaming voice he was able to persuade them to leave, but what if they had been a little hungrier? Your natural instinct will be to defend your companion. I am not saying to leave your friend at home but be prepared. Put a bell or a beeper on him or her so you know where they are at all times. The most important thing is to pack a firearm! I personally believe pepper spray will not work in a pack attack. Keep your dogs quiet when you are walking, no barking. If they are tied up in camp, no barking. And for Gods sake don’t let your children play with your pets and have them barking while there playing. My personal belief is the war has been lost, its to late to save are big game herds in my lifetime. The perfect plan to end our hunting in Idaho , Montana , Wyoming and soon Washington , Oregon and the entire Rocky Mountain Range. It’s fool proof and would take an order from the President to change it. So what I have loved to do for most of my life is over. So enjoy while you still can, be prepared, pack a gun! I prey you never encounter a pack of Canadian gray wolfs.

Tom Remington

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41 Responses to “One Heck Of A Wolf Story”

  1. Moose on July 8th, 2006 3:24 pm

    It would appear to be true;

    [quote]The Idaho Fish and Game Department sent out a news release June 12 advising residents how to keep their dogs from being ripped to shreds by wolves.
    F&G warns pet owners that other canines are intruders in “wolf habitat” and if you take your dog into the backcountry wolves may eat him. In addition, because of the Endangered Species Act, there is nothing you can do except scream and yell if wolves attack your pet on public land.
    These warnings come on the heels of a wolf attack near Grangeville wherein a bear hunter lost two dogs, paid several hundred dollars in veterinary bills to repair a third dog and nearly became a victim himself. Hunter Scott Richards wrote about the attack in a first-person account. According to Richards, when he came on the scene of the attack he attempted to scare the wolves by screaming and yelling, resulting in one of the wolves turning on him. If not for a counterattack from his dog, Richards believes he would have been taken down. When he found his second dog, her stomach was ripped open and she had more than 60 bite marks over her body.
    “It’s very difficult to describe the type of death these dogs were handed,” Richards wrote. “It was easy to see that the wolves want to cripple their prey, torture it and then kill it. I have never seen any worse way for an animal to die.”
    [/quote]

    “According to the U.S. FWS report, Scott Richards’ dogs were wearing bells and Richards was screaming at the wolves when one of them lunged at him. In our opinion, the Fish and Game’s advice is about as much good as a chicken wire canoe.”

    http://www.idahocountyfreepress.com/IFPOpinion1.html

  2. knownasTD on July 9th, 2006 12:07 am

    I do not hate wolves, nor do I think they should be eradicated. What I do think, is that wolf reintroduction is unnecessary, and an ill advised idea that’s fueled by the bunny-hugger groups across the country. If you love wolves, then go to Cananda and whistle some up. Or maybe visit your local zoo.

    I’m no psychic, but my guess is that 20 yrs from now, all wolf reintroduction projects will have proven to be worthless, costly, and entirely the wrong thing to do to an unprotected eco-system. Arizona has a Mexican Grey-wolf reintroduction project, and so far, I haven’t heard anything but ill-feelings about it. Especially from the cattlemen and the big game hunters where the wolves were released.

    I may go to jail, but I’d certainly kill any wolf that had turned on me. Especially after they’d just attacked and killed three of my dogs, and seriously injured a fourth. Endangered Species Act or not.

  3. mark on July 10th, 2006 9:27 pm

    Looks like the the picture is courtesy of PhotoShop… The torso is too long, The dogs ears/mouth would have been damaged and bloodied as well

  4. MadJack on July 12th, 2006 10:32 pm

    I don’t care what the LAW says, if smething is after myself, wife kids or dogs, I’ll kill it.
    And you won’t find me talking about it to anyone and I doubt anyone would find any evidence.

  5. Scott Richards on July 14th, 2006 10:40 pm

    The story is very real, please contact me for more info.

  6. Black Bear Blog » Blog Archive » Verifying “One Heck Of A Wolf Story” on July 18th, 2006 10:28 am

    [...] On July 8, 2006, I brought you a story called, “One Heck Of A Wolf Story“. It was sent to me via email from a friend of mine in West Virginia, Rod Davis. We all have received emails with stories and photos attached and most of them make for good entertainment. It is safe to say too that the majority of us assume that what we are reading is true and accurate, for the most part. [...]

  7. polly barrett on July 26th, 2006 12:51 pm

    Hi, My name is Polly Barrett I have lived in Boise Idaho all my life. Early June 2006 my husband, five year old son and I were picnicking in Knox meadows near our cabin in Warm lake Idaho when a pack of wolves attacked our twelve year old dachshund , Tucker. This happened at two in the afternoon right in front of us. My two dachshunds had bells on and we were noisy. The wolves had to know that humans were around. The wolves ran Tucker right to us biting him and trying to kill him right in front of us in the middle of the meadow. Tucker made it to us with the wolves right behind him. They finally stopped and just walked away. My husband running and yelling at them finally stopped their progress. We rushed Tucker to a vet in Cascade Idaho who sewed him up after serious injuries. Tucker is a tuff little dog who has survived and thrived dispite his horrible ordeal. My husband has talked to the Idaho fish and game about this hoping they will let people know of the dangers our pets face in the mountains. I also have photos of Tucker right after the ordeal.

  8. Moose on July 27th, 2006 10:54 am

    The madness continues as the Feds expand the mexican wolf project despite the problems ranchers have had with the wolves already reintroduced.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0726wolf0726.html

  9. Kathleen Kalina on March 4th, 2007 10:30 pm

    My dog was attacked by a wolf while we walking near our house in Vermont a few years ago. It was very cold out and I had put a cabela’s neoprene vest on her. As we were walking, she suddenly smelled the wolf and turned to run back to the house via a twisting trail. I couldn’t catch up with her since it was icey. Suddenly, when she was at a spot in the trail that I couldn’t see, I heard her squeal the most awful sound. I immediately knew that a wolf had attacked and I pulled out my .380 that I always carry hiking. Since I couldn’t see anything, I shot in the air 4 times while I kept moving to the area. I replaced a fresh clip into the gun while I was getting to the site in case I needed all 7 shots. The dog’s squealling stopped when I shot. When I got to the spot, I saw in the snow where a wolf had come down a hill behind the dog and snow was all messed up where they had wrestled. I saw no blood, to my relief and saw my dogs tracks running back to the house and the wolf running across the frozen marsh. When I got to the house, my dog was standing at the door. I saw big teeth holes in the back of her neoprene vest along the spine as if the wolf picked her up by the spine to shake her. (They often try to break the spine). The wolf couldn’t shake her since the neoprene kept her spine stiff. The teeth marks were very deep and I realized the power it must have taken to bite into neoprene like that. My dog appeared to be bruised in that area, but no punctures in the skin. I was relieved. I was very angry that a wolf was so close to the house and took my 30.06 and started to trail it. I followed the wolf a long way until I realized there was no way of catching up. I noticed that its tracks in the snow showed that it stepped behind trees and turned to look back very often. I never saw the beast. Thank God for neoprene vests.

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  11. Ithaca37 on April 2nd, 2007 5:17 pm

    Why is it that spammers like the above post can’t use proper english or something even resembling it??

  12. Megan S. on April 8th, 2007 12:28 am

    I have hiked and owned dogs in backcountry Alaska all of my life. In Alaska, wolf attacks on pets are common, especially trained hunting dogs. Because there is no doubt that people would never give up their dogs, our solution is to keep an eye on our pets at all times, know where they are, and watch closely for bear and wolf sign. Part of living in a world where we appreciate nature is the danger of the outdoors. I always carry a gun loaded for bear, and watch my dogs for signs of other animals. My pets are part of the family, so I refuse to cut them out of that fundamental part of my life. I understand that I risk their lives and mine, but what is life without risk? I am horrified that this man lost his pets, friends really, and nearly his own life, but should he really expect the rest of the world to turn on three dog’s lives? No sheep, cattle, horses, or pigs, nor dogs or cats, are that important. People have an obligation to keep nature alive around them. Man does not want another predator in his territory, which is realy what this comes down to, and what is a dog to a wolf, but another predator? I feel deeply for this man, I cannot imagine what I would do if I lost one of my dogs, but it is the duty of the owner to protect the pet and livestock, not F&G. Like keeping a dog off the street, one must keep a dog away from wolves. People in Montana, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, and all other states who have newly introduced wolves, are not used to this danger. Once you are accustomed, it will not be any worse than a dog dismembered by a hit and run, and sadly, no less common. The disagreement on this subject comes from the individual objecting to the government’s seeming favoritism of this animal. However, moose are not hunted down and systematically killed. I know more people (animals too) killed, or seriously injured, by moose than by wolves. Yes, it is a new threat, and yes, America’s idea of ridding itself of threats is to kill them, and regret it later. That cannot be allowed to happen this time.

  13. Dreamer on May 7th, 2007 11:06 am

    I’m a germal pupil,my english is not very good, but I read this article and translated it. I hope somebody understand my awful english…

    I understand, that nobody like to have such a situation but I love wolfes and I think they aren’t “guilty”! If people destroy the habitat of this beautiful animals or will catch them, it’s not a real wonder if something like this happens!
    If a wolf would kill my dog, I would cry, sure, but I respect the habitat of the canides and would never start a call like “Hate wolves, wolves are bad!”…and I think this report sounds like that.

    That’s my opinion: don’t hate wolves because of such a story. Try to understand why they kill dogs, why they attack sheeps and humans! Because of our own dept!

    I hope nobody think now I don’t like dogs or I’m heartless, but I’m a wolfsfan and this people aren’t the “bad tales beasts”…

  14. alyssa on May 13th, 2007 9:22 pm

    That is so sad, The poor dog..

  15. Saray on May 30th, 2007 8:16 am

    Those pictures are definitely photoshopped, as Mark in the above post comments.
    As a graphic artist I have a trained eye and can say 100% sure that the pictures are fake; look closely at the area where the head should be connected to the backbone – there’s an unnatural shadow for the lighting conditions on the rest of the photo. Also on the first picture, there’s a tiny white line around the head of the dog, behind which the hand of the person who’s holding the
    whole thing is clumsily hidden. That white line means that you suck at properly cutting out an image.
    The head on the second picture looks as if it’s just copy-pasted on top of the too long and large backbone, with some smudging going on at the end of the neck which makes it look even faker. There’s no blood on the hair in the neck as well.

    It’s an interesting detail that the head of the dog is completely unharmed compared to the rest of the “missing body”. I mean come on, it’s absolutely horrible and unbelievably sad that you’ve lost the dogs you love so much to wolves, and you won’t hear me saying that the story couldn’t be true, but it’s also unbelievably sad that you need to photoshop some pictures of a backbone you got at a butcher and paste the head of a perfectly fine dog on it (in a crappy way) to make your story sound/look worse.

    It makes me doubt the sincerity of the entire story.

    Fool someone else, please.

  16. Kathleen Kalina on September 28th, 2007 4:06 am

    The reason that there is no blood on the dogs head is typical of wolf kills. They shake the dog from the mid spine and break their back. they don’t attack the face. They then start to eat from the the back legs up. Deer look the same way, since the wolf grabs a deer from the hind leg, brings it down and bits the spinal cord and severs it.

  17. Saray on October 2nd, 2007 4:31 am

    Cute, too bad it’s still fake and photoshopped.

  18. Tom Remington on October 2nd, 2007 9:49 am

    Actually Saray, it’s not! The story was confirmed an republished by George Dovel in his bimonthly publication of the Outdoorsman. George is a highly respected man with years of experience afield and I know that he would never publish anything he cannot confirm as fact.

    I have also communicated with Scott Richards about the story and from every account, this is a factual story.

  19. Charlie Bader on December 23rd, 2007 4:51 am

    Yes, it’s true. What will it take to convince Saray, Mark and others like them? I too was brainwashed by my elementary school teachers, but I’ve since learned to think for myself. We’ve been having several wolf attacks in the Anchorage area up here in Alaska. Same story from multiple witnesses. Just this morning a couple women were confronted by a pack. Their 2 dogs were leashed, they used pepper spray, which slowed one wolf down. They had to scream at the top of their lungs to prevent the wolves from taking their pets. Before that we’ve had about 5 reports of people either putting their dog out to go pee or walking them off the leash. They find the collar, and maybe the dog’s head. Read the articles in the Anchorage Daily News. This also happened in the 70’s up in Fairbanks. Our frontier is headed back your way, hope you enjoy it.

  20. kelley nawas on March 14th, 2008 12:27 pm

    man i am so sorry about what happen 2 ur dog

  21. Knight on March 17th, 2008 3:30 pm

    I am from the south , so my incounters have mainly been with coyotes . Sorry for the loss and appreciate the warnning , espcially since I like to hike here in the Washington .

  22. Ryan on April 6th, 2008 3:21 pm

    I am truly sorry to read about what happened to the dogs in this story. As for the people who think this is a hoax I say have some respect and go back to school because YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE A CLUE! I believe it’s necessary for people to realize how out of balance the lower 48’s ecosystems have become. Humans are not the almighty here and must fit into the ecosystem like the rest of the world to survive. Were it not for Blackey the hero of the story this man could have very well been reduced to wolf scat. People should practice more saving of native habitats then these animals can gradually find their own way back into our lands and not have to be reintroduced. That way wolfs have their place and we have ours. We know now that if you take out one part of the food chain you break the food chain. I find it quite ironic when a hunter goes out with dogs and then becomes hunted by dogs. LET THIS BE A LESSON to everyone!

  23. ar on April 6th, 2008 3:57 pm

    “Hi. My name is Kevin. I drive a sand truck”.

  24. karlie on April 27th, 2008 6:08 pm

    i am veary sry that that happened to ur pour dog..its terrible that in nature there is death and i hate it i do…but…do u think that everytime ur dogs kill an animal…do u think their family likes that…i meen u must have been sad when ur dog was killed by that wolf..i wonder how that cubs parents felt animals do have feelings u kno and as a wolf lover i think even tho he killed ur dog its the way of nature and if everyone who hunts thinks thats its
    okay then it must be okay for that wolf to kill ur dog if u want ur dogs to be safe dont hunt with them because its for survival that wolvs and all carnivorus animals kill including humans..u cant take take take and never hope to give …u must have been terrifide when that wolf attacted u…how do u think either animals that u have killed feel :( it makes me sad that with al the problems in the world ppl still hunt for game ..i dont care if ppl kill for meat…but if u kill for a trophy or a carpet …or sompthing to hang on ur wall shame to all of u …i am still terribly sry for ur dog and i hope the rest of them are safe …
    plz remember this is coming from t14 year old girl who loves animals to death especially wolves and i hate when ..ppl who hunt kill animals..especially wolvs it terrible …thanks…

  25. ar on April 27th, 2008 10:31 pm

    karlie,

    Then, make sure to stay out of the woods and keep the kids in the house.

  26. Marcus brody on May 24th, 2008 10:42 pm

    I’m sorry you lost your dogs. That is terrible and no animal deserves that. The bears and cougers you’re hunting, they don’t deserve to be hunted either.

    Wolf reintroduction is a grave mistake in my opinion. That must stop immediately.

    And hunting must stop immediately. Kill an animal in the wild and your commence uppance might be your own life, and, in this case, your dogs. So perhaps that was your just desserts.

    STOP HUNTING!!!!

  27. jes on May 25th, 2008 8:40 am

    Marcus, you better open your eyes and go out and be with nature awhile. And know it’s wolf eat dog, and dog eat you, and anything bigger or smarter or hungrier eats everything and anything it can get it’s jaws or paws on. That’s the way it is. Your commence uppance doesn’t mean squat. Neither does your sympathy. You’ve had your meals served you on a silver platter, and you have no appreciation for a man who can hunt, clean, butcher, cook and serve you your unearned meat with a plastic spoon. How do you think all life survives? By hunting…or having something hunt for you..like your momma!

  28. beky on May 30th, 2008 5:41 pm

    you are a freak of nature you are a freaking discrase you better hoe god forgives you i dont care if that dog killed something of yours its not right.plus cutting off his head and tearing out its spine than having the nearv to post it on the web like that its also ILLEGLE to hunt wolf dont you read aor are you to st stu stupid to.well ya dumb hick i’ll bet you’re mamma dont love you now and dont think emailing me something is gonna scare me,because my dad is a general in the army and im president of the wildlife foundaition of the girl scouts.and no im not afraid of you what kind of un caring old man dose that i oughta call up steve wilkos and have you on there i know he’ll get up in your face because he loves animals exspesialy dogs and dont get smart as a student of the month in honers language arts i know for a fact that a wolfe is a dog.dont try to disagree with me and get mad at me because telling the cold blood truth you hick think it makes you big and bad to kill a living thing like that.a pure true unloved filthy hillbily discrase you hunt deer duck turkey birds and fish for fish.you also eat what you kill its in the bible in fact and i quote it wasnt until adam and eve sinned witch caused the whole creation to fall when christ comes back the animals will be tame in other words you eat what you kill so ya for a girl i know my stuff and im not sinning either because im standing up for all i believe in oh and heres some advise go to the store buy a bible and go forth read it and learn and pray hard god stll loves you unlike some people and dont hurt anything you dont eat pray hope for god to for give you hes comin soon better hurry up.i am sorry about you’re dogs though trust me i love dogs so i hope you get caught took to jail for a long time do you think i killed mr.joes dog for chasing my ct and getting her lost in the woods no so thing

  29. jes on May 30th, 2008 6:42 pm

    I think she’s talking to the guy in the photos, right? And I hope she gets it all off her chest, before she gets chests.

  30. Tom Remington on May 30th, 2008 6:59 pm

    Gosh! I couldn’t have worded it any better. Are you an Obama supporter?

  31. beky on May 30th, 2008 9:31 pm

    thanks guys no im not an obama soporter i just love animals i am talking about the guy in the picture the discrase he is i just love animals i did get it of my chest you two sound really nice.im sry for getting mad like that on the net i am mad at him what do you think i got mad because my 3 dogs are cross breeds (90%wolfe and 10% geraman shepard)i think he best be glad i wasnt there but there is better ways to get anger out for all he knows that could have been a mommy whos gonna feed there babies now theyr gonna starve i hope you cry yourself to sleep every noght.grown man oughta know not to get an emo mad xept i dont cut my self:)

  32. Alane on August 10th, 2008 5:54 pm

    There was a report of wolf attacks on sheep in the Dubois, Idaho area yesterday and I was on the net trying to gain more information. You see, my brother is the Bryon (Brian) in the story that was with Scott Richards. I heard the story, saw pictures, read it in the paper back when it happened and yes, it is factual. So I checked the net to see what kind of coverage the incident still had. AMAZING. I am so shocked by the comments of beky. What illiterate,rambling idiocy! I respect the rights of teenagers to voice their opinions but trashing people’s socio-economic status, mixing religious (Christianity, I think–hard to tell) proselytizing and politics with the debate on hunting and wolf recovery? And emo and not cutting herself–how is that relevant? Everyone has the right to an opinion but this should be a forum about the topic and not a forum to display one’s pitiful grasp of the language. “honers language arts?” Let’s hope she is not representative of the next generation to run this country.
    The message in the story is about the pitfalls of wolf recovery. Period. I walk in the backwoods of north Idaho about 100 miles from where the wolf attack occurred–with my dogs and with a pistol. As Megan from from Alaska noted, it is a new phenomenon, we are stuck with it and we need to adapt to the reality of sharing our space with wolves. I don’t support wolf recovery, don’t like what is is doing to the deer and elk herds in our area. I hunt and fish and now, I carry a weapon when I am out to enjoy the great outdoors. My support goes out to all those who hunt with dogs and have to face this new risk.

  33. steven on December 6th, 2008 1:36 pm

    hi im steven from wisconsin i am a hunter myself we do lot and lots of hunting with are walker hounds we hunt bear coon coyote and bobcat! im sorry for loss we encounter this same problem every year now as you did we have been one of the very few that havent had any dogs killed by wolfs yet. we did have some of are best dogs killed by a bear though i truley believe that every wolf around should be killed and they should do sumthing when your dog is killed they should remove all wolfs is what i believe that our open a hunting season in the state and believe me we`ll take care of them son of bitches!

  34. Jared on January 7th, 2009 3:49 am

    Honestly, yes it sucks the dog died but everything dies one way or another. Just because they left the head does not mean that they were some sort of devil dogs and nor does it mean that they did it out of cruel intentions. Wolves are not like that, humans sure as heck are but wolves are not and neither are dogs.

    Seeing something like this can touch every dog owner very deeply, but we must keep our tempers at check and remind ourselves that this is nature, that this is what happens and that perhaps wolves are not the cause of this, maybe, maybe not. But that does not warrant for the destruction of the animal. If there was a higher being that saw the Nazis killing the Jews in the Holocaust and then decided that all of man was evil and that we deserve to be wiped out…well I think you get my comparison. We as a species have committed a hell of a lot worse then the animals to which hunted down this dog.

    Also putting this picture up is bound to create tensions on the Wolf and however angry we may become we must respect the dog and try to understand first why this happened. Some years ago an incident in Hawaii accord in which people were being attacked and killed by the local Tiger Sharks. A local group was created “The Shark Task Force” and very soon the tiger sharks were slowly but surely dwindling in number due to the hunts. But as they are apart of the food chain, the fishing industry began to fail due to that the tiger shark ate a smaller shark of the region which in turn ate the fish, and with less tiger shark there were more of these smaller sharks swimming around and eating the fish thus the economy of the local town began to drop…Perhaps we can learn something from this…

    So I simply warn, before taking action…research, research, study, study and ask the experts. It’s good to have your own mind and way of thinking but be careful in what you do for everything has a chain reaction to every event…

  35. mary on January 24th, 2009 12:20 pm

    I am also a graphic artist and I do not agree that these images are photoshopped.

    Saray what tiny white line are you talking about? there isnt one. look at the fur. you can see through the hairs to what is behind. thats quite a good silo job if it is fake.

    Listen to the actual hunters… they said it isnt uncommon to find deer like this because of the way in which wolves kill and eat their prey. It may look strange to us since we have never seen it, but I believe this is the way wolves kill.

    The truth is, these pictures are way too low res to tell. yes, photoshop is possible, I just dont think it has been done here. the mans story sounds sincere.

  36. Paul D on January 24th, 2009 8:03 pm

    Hi, Tom

    In Idaho, this story is very well known and well documented, so don’t be silly girls. Even if these photos were photoshopped, this is still a dead dog in both pictures. The spine goes from the man’s chest and hangs down to around his knees. That is the excact length of my lab’s spine. What spine from a butcher shop would you get, that’s this small, a cow spine or pig spine would be much bigger and much longer. Come on guys, let’s not be so naive in thinking that wolves don’t do this and much worse. Do you think they have evolved into herbavores?
    They don’t just naturally weave themselves back into the land and not have an exponentially devastating effect on an ecosystem. There’s a reason why they do arial wolf control in Alaska. They have to, or the game populations would be wiped down to a few stragglers, and that’s not healthy for anything. With all mortalities of wolves considered, they still increase at an alarming rate of %24 a year. What happens when wolves, hit their threshold in a landscape, where game is scarce and they diligently search for food?

  37. jes on January 25th, 2009 12:51 pm

    I’ve seen coyotes eat dear and calves the same way…the butt hole is the easiest and shortest route to the main body of meat, entrails are the first and softest, then everything but the head and spine, where there is very little meat….They will come back to finish off the bones, but this is what you get on short, quick meals…
    Not to say this was done by wolves, but any predator, even buzzards, eat the same way, but buzzards will usually start with the eyes, just in case the animal is still alive..(they don’t want it alive…and it is also the most tender.and they don’t have the teeth to tear as well as mammals)

  38. jes on January 25th, 2009 12:57 pm

    And Jared, we aren’t talking about just one example…the wolves are growing in numbers so fast that pretty soon, you won’t be able to walk in the woods without risk of being attacked. And right now, the deer and elk are being exterminated by so many wolves that we will be lucky to have any left at all, much less any to hunt….

  39. Sandie on April 26th, 2009 7:30 pm

    That is so sad……. I have no idea how you could hold up the remains of your dog for a photo without crying. I know that I would have cryed and probly puked.

  40. John on December 27th, 2009 1:06 am

    It sounds like you need need to hunt with bigger dogs. Or possibly start walking your dogs in a city park instead of hunting bears.

    As far as wolves eating all the local wildlife that is a bunch of malarkey. If wolves kill off all of the prey animals they would subsequently starve to death. If humans would not meddle so much with nature, the balance would be restored naturally.

  41. fish nuggets on March 9th, 2010 1:04 pm

    hey, this story is a very good story similar to many others i have heard about. i have no doubt that it is true and i think that sick bastard that said it was photoshopped should take a good hard look in the mirrior. u are a sick son of a bitch if you think somebody would lie and carve up their own dog like that. go back to the city u stupid *&^%$$!!! hunting has been around forever so you can

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